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Old 07-23-2019, 02:54 PM   #21
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So, why not Equalizer?

I loved mine and never once had a problem. Towing from WV to Niagara and Gatlinberg and all through WV mountain interstates.
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Old 07-23-2019, 02:58 PM   #22
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So, why not Equalizer?

I loved mine and never once had a problem. Towing from WV to Niagara and Gatlinberg and all through WV mountain interstates.
Because I feel the equalizer is inferior to the Dual Cam, and the Dual Cam ain't cutting it on my setup (35 foot, 10K#). Why spend $650 to go backwards?

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Old 07-23-2019, 03:06 PM   #23
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I have a 2017 F250 (2 wheel drive) and pull a 38' TT with a E2 and I love it.
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Old 07-23-2019, 03:18 PM   #24
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I have a 2017 F250 (2 wheel drive) and pull a 38' TT with a E2 and I love it.
And I wish you all the best with it.

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Old 07-23-2019, 04:02 PM   #25
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By all accounts, the Propride hitch is the best available. I looked at it and rejected for reasons unique to us. Basically, the need for bars & chains combined with the precision backing required for the stinger were what caused my driver and hitcher to reject it. We went with the Andersen with which we are very happy. I'm sure you will be happy with the Propride.

Once you have had it installed and have had your TT out for a pull on the freeway, please come back and let us know just how happy you are. I mean that with respect and best wishes.
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Old 07-23-2019, 04:13 PM   #26
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Because I feel the equalizer is inferior to the Dual Cam, and the Dual Cam ain't cutting it on my setup (35 foot, 10K#). Why spend $650 to go backwards?

Tim
Gotcha.

Hey, I like the benefit of everyone's thinking. I'm no expert and am always looking for help.
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Old 07-23-2019, 04:31 PM   #27
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Once you have had it installed and have had your TT out for a pull on the freeway, please come back and let us know just how happy you are. I mean that with respect and best wishes.

No problems there. I am known as a bit of a wordy SOB (<- does not mean "Some Other Brand" in this instance).

Expect a full write up.

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Old 07-23-2019, 04:44 PM   #28
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I've never towed with a modified truck, and Hensley wasn't yet in business when we bought our first TT. Our early towing experience without the Hensley was similar to your recent woes, and it really made the journey a JOB - very unpleasant. So we bought our Hensley Arrow when we bought our second TT several years later, and what a difference! X2 on that hitch eliminating trailer sway. It also makes turning a little closer to 5er functionality because of the hitch bar. We are now on our fourth TT, and our beloved Hensley Arrow has been moved from the old one to the new one each time. I would not tow a TT without it. It's nice to get back to driving the rig and not having white knuckles at the end of each travel day. I have heard and read good things about ProPride, as well; but I can only offer my experience with the Hensley. It has been money very well spent, and if you can get a refurbished - but fully guaranteed - hitch, it will be a little less money well spent. Oh, and the folks at Hensley are great to work with - you can call Terry Powell, Engineer, 800.410.6580 with any technical questions. Ron Estrada, marketing, could tell you if they have any refurbished hitches available. Customer service is top notch. Good luck!!
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Excursions - long may they rule the roads !

I run a 2003 Excursion Limited 4x4 V-10 & tow a Winnebago ONE 26RK & a Featherlite 34' toy hauler SURV.

My son uses a 2005 Excursion Eddie Bauer 6.0 turbo- diesel RWD to tow a 22' Stag tilt trailer, 2885 lb., carrying a 6,600 lb. Mitsubishi fork lift, plus some tools.

We have found this thread to be extremely interesting.
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Old 07-24-2019, 07:30 AM   #30
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My 832ikbs, (same trailer but flagstaff) towed great with a 14k equalizer behind my ram 1500. The key for my setup was transferring enough weight to put 200# more on the front axle than when it was unloaded. It was one finger driving in crosswinds strong enough to blow the OEM stairs out twice.

Ymmv, of course.
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Old 07-24-2019, 07:53 AM   #31
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I had a 2000 Excursion V10 4.30 axles. Pulled a 2000 30ft 10Klb TT. Used a Reese DualCam 1200lb bars. Never did get it quite dialed in. Sold the Ex and TT for a F350 and a fifth wheel. Ahhhhhh towing nirvana!!!!! I for one can sympathize and look forward to your review of the Propride hitch. The big price tag is what stopped me. Loved that Excursion though.
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Old 07-24-2019, 09:19 AM   #32
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Excursions tend to have a mush suspension to accommodate a very smooth ride. Trucks however you have a have your suspension and ride harder. Also told better. A friend of mine and excursion and I hated the way it towed so he traded it in an F1 50 Max tow and the problem went away
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Old 07-28-2019, 11:11 PM   #33
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You will like the propride or Hensley. I have one and went from white knuckles -almost going to sell my new trailer to perfect towing now. It will eliminate sway between any kind of tow vehicle and trailer. It wouldn’t matter if you were towing a 39ft trailer with a Prius going 70mph on the freeway, the physics of the Hensley wouldn’t allow sway between the two. Of course the Prius body would be smushed to the asphalt and bend the car to pieces, but just an example. Anyways once you get a little experience with the Hensley or pride hookups and disconnects are easier than any other hitch. For me what made all the difference was a low mounted backup camera.
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Old 07-29-2019, 12:37 AM   #34
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.....Of course the Prius body would be smushed to the asphalt and bend the car to pieces, but just an example. ...
To preface, I am not being sarcastic or a jerk but do want to know a reasonable answer to the following question:

I posted a sarcastic post and picture in POST #14 but want to know how much of your vehicle payload does Hensley say you can safely exceed using their hitch? Hensley's example cited in Post #14 shows a mid '90's Dodge Intrepid towing a triple axle Airstream. Surely the tongue weight of that trailer exceeded the payload capacity of the Intrepid long before any occupants entered the vehicle.

While the hitch may be fine, is Hensley actively promoting severely overloading your tow vehicle?

The reason I ask this is because that on this forum the common chatter regarding these hitches is a larger travel trailer with a nearly maxed out, or beyond maxed out tow vehicle and the owner stating that before the Hensley or Popride it was a "white knuckle" drive. Why not start with a more than adequate tow vehicle so you don't need a Band-Aid hitch?
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Old 07-29-2019, 12:53 AM   #35
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Yeah I agree with it’s better to start out with the right setup, but a Hensley with the right setup will still be safer. Even with the right setup, “sway control” still gives the possibility of something happening. Also I don’t think Hensley is trying to get people to tow with tiny cars, and neither am I, but it’s just an example of the physics involved. Sway isn’t possible, and the trailer cannot move the tow vehicle rear or front. It’s like the two become a school bus unless the tv decides to turn.
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Old 07-29-2019, 08:28 AM   #36
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While the hitch may be fine, is Hensley actively promoting severely overloading your tow vehicle?

The reason I ask this is because that on this forum the common chatter regarding these hitches is a larger travel trailer with a nearly maxed out, or beyond maxed out tow vehicle and the owner stating that before the Hensley or Popride it was a "white knuckle" drive. Why not start with a more than adequate tow vehicle so you don't need a Band-Aid hitch?
I'm sure Hensley, ProPride and all their lawyers do not promote overloading a tow vehicle. It's just a representation of the capabilities in an extreme situation. Just like that recent Toyota commercial touting the Tundra towing the Space Shuttle. I am sure Toyota does not expect anyone to think they can tow their own space shuttle with their tundra. In fact, that ad was covered with "DO NOT ATTEMPT" warnings, and I am sure that if Hensley made a new ad the lawyers would demand the same warning. But that video was obviously made in a different era.

As far as maxed out... "Possible" does not always equal "Comfortable". My specific combo is well within my manufactures limits. But it requires 100% concentration, 100% of the time. I dare not even open a beverage, as any wind or passing truck will induce a sway. If one of these hitches stop it, then its worth my money.

And while I don't advocate overloading your trucks limits, look at it this way... People are going to do it no matter what you, or I, or anyone else says. There will ALWAYS be the guy with the F150 or the 1500 that thinks "my truck can haul any trailer no problem". If there is a hitch that at least adds some level of safety to that equation, why be opposed to it?

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Tim, I have a recommendation for you... but you already know what's coming next.
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Old 07-29-2019, 09:24 AM   #38
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That's it. I'm done messing about..

Hey cowracer I know you’re leaning towards the propride but just a couple thoughts.
1. I can tell you from personal experience the Hensley will fit pretty much any trailer and is very much adjustable. Not sure on the propride since it attaches differently to the tongue.
2. Hensley has absolutely amazing customer support and knowledge. I’ve had a lot of questions and Hensley always answers them quickly. Propride is a much smaller company and the owner seems to be one single person who does it all. I might be wrong though.
3. Hensley’s warranty is also great. If you need parts they get it out in no time. Not sure how much parts stock pro pride has.
Again, the propride will give the same performance as a Hensley and was designed by the same person, but these are the reasons I went Hensley.
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Tim, I have a recommendation for you... but you already know what's coming next.

I believe I asked him the same question
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Old 07-29-2019, 11:04 AM   #40
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Hey cowracer I know you’re leaning towards the propride but just a couple thoughts.
1. I can tell you from personal experience the Hensley will fit pretty much any trailer and is very much adjustable. Not sure on the propride since it attaches differently to the tongue.
2. Hensley has absolutely amazing customer support and knowledge. I’ve had a lot of questions and Hensley always answers them quickly. Propride is a much smaller company and the owner seems to be one single person who does it all. I might be wrong though.
3. Hensley’s warranty is also great. If you need parts they get it out in no time. Not sure how much parts stock pro pride has.
Again, the propride will give the same performance as a Hensley and was designed by the same person, but these are the reasons I went Hensley.
All valid points. It come down to personal preference. The engineer in me likes the attachment "yoke" and the jacks better on the ProPride.

I am sure that each is 100% as capable as the other.

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