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Old 05-22-2016, 10:46 AM   #61
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My 03 Ram 2500 averages 16-17 city, over 22 empty on the interstate, and 12 to 13 on average trip from central Indiana to the Smokies and back. Same trip/camper with the Ram gas, best average was about 7-8mpg. Only engine work was replace a bad injector and fuel cross over tube. About $300.00 in parts and did it myself in about two hours. Truck is pre def so 50 bucks to change oil every 5,000 miles ain't bad. And this morning gas was 2.399 and diesel was 2.099

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Old 05-22-2016, 10:54 AM   #62
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I agree. Buy Ford. Local city fleet bought Dodge last time, lowest tender deal. Highest maintenance and in 3 years selling them off replacing with Ford again. They have a fleet of 2002 with the bad engines and no problems. The 2013 Rams are problematic with engine problems, springs etc.

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Old 05-22-2016, 11:16 AM   #63
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Old 05-22-2016, 11:40 AM   #64
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Jeeeeezz! Semi trucks are towing 40 - 80,000 pounds! Of course they have Diesel engines! Gassers can easily tow 10,000 pounds, properly equipped of course. Just because one can buy a diesel pick-up, doesn't mean everyone needs one. I'm done now....
OK, most of my posts (on any subject) have a bit of tongue-in-cheek flavor. Hey, if you can't have fun and laugh when you're chit-chatting, why bother?

I have two trucks, one is gas. OK? I actually have 3, once I get the old 1984 restored. Then I'll have two gassers. Gassers have their place.

But really, you sort of made my point, backhandedly. You admit that it takes a diesel to pull a really heavy load, but then say that gas trucks can do ok if you just keep it down to 'their level'. conclusion on that is that a diesel truck would pull better than a gasser if that is the SOLE difference in the two trucks. Not only does it have more torque, but those trucks just seem to always come with bigger brakes, bigger everything. They pull better, which you seem to agree with.

I get it........the guys that want to pull with a gasser have bought/will buy, a travel trailer and they can't afford to go out and buy a new truck. Been there! I get it!!! So they try and justify the truck that they have, that it will pull the trailer that they now have. I get it, truly. I'm not made of money either.

But if the discussion is truly which truck is BETTER, and not just which one is MINIMALLY OK, the diesels are gonna win..........and that's been my sole purpose in this discussion.

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Old 05-22-2016, 06:59 PM   #65
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Mpg, fact or fiction friction!

Recently bought a fifth wheel. About two years ago. 2001 f250 diesel'withn74,000 miles on the clock. The only mod to the truck is an aftermarket exhaust brake, which I really like. Done by previous owner. I regularly go from Mesa Az to Payson. Payson is about 5,500 ft elevation, 81 mile each way trip. Mesa, 1100 ft elevation. Empty, always gets 21 mpg round trip. Loaded with my fifth, scaled wt at 9500. Round trip 12.5 mpg. This truck running around town, 5.5 miles to and from work, regularly turns in 16.5 mpg. Just back from a trip from Mesa, to Portland, Or. On my 4,000 mi trip towing, avg was 11.8. Truck is about to turn 95 k mi.

Before I bought my truck, I borrowed a friends 2004 f250 5.4 gasser to try out my new fifth wheel trailer. While it towed ok on the flat land, it struggled badly going up the hills to Payson. Round trip Mpg was 5.6mpg.

That said, my work truck, is a 2002 f250 gasser, 5.4 liter. Some basic electronic hand tools in the nearly empty truck box, strictly city driving with 10% fwy, always turns in 9.5 to 10 mpg.

All figures are hand calculated to verify the "Lie-o-meter". On my truck, usually is just a few percent off. Close enough to get the idea of my driving habits.
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Old 05-23-2016, 06:59 AM   #66
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I agree with all of you..just pick what you want and need, and then maintain and enjoy..
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Old 05-23-2016, 02:18 PM   #67
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Well I'm glad I only started a 7 page "diesel vs gas" debate when I was simply trying to share some information.
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Old 05-23-2016, 02:31 PM   #68
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The terrible cost of diesel maintenance

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Well I'm glad I only started a 7 page "diesel vs gas" debate when I was simply trying to share some information.

Lol. Bout the only worse things are 1/2 vs 3/4 vs 1T debate....or maybe putting something on back.

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Old 05-24-2016, 01:18 AM   #69
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All of your points really do not mean much, recalls are the thing of the times, and it dose not matter the brand or how much you spend, and as for shotty work done by a tire shop should have had them fix it, they broke it.
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Old 05-24-2016, 07:40 AM   #70
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At my local shop, I pay 69 for a full oil change with Rotella and I pay 75 for a fuel filter every other oil change. Every 15k I do a spin off filter change on the ALLISON when I'm in for an oil change and they don't even charge me for that, literally takes 2 minutes. Lol. The ALLISON filter cost me 14/each off of amazon.

Even though diesel has gone up in the last 3 months, I just filled up for 2.23/gal.

I've never complained about diesel maintenance. I did complain about how gasser tow though.... Lol.

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