The Weight Police Visit My Campsite

[CZNEDY]

Originally Posted by sideout1961

You didn't happen to be at Bay View on the Cape? I stopped and talked to a guy with your same truck and setup Sunday

That was me

[sideout1961]

Originally Posted by CZNEDY

I was at bayview

Well if it was you I talked too I want you to know I wasn't questioning your ability if I had the 5.7 tundra I'd probably have what you have. My questions were more for my brother in law because be has the same truck as you a d was looking into a 5'er.

[CZNEDY]

Originally Posted by sideout1961

Well if it was you I talked too I want you to know I wasn't questioning your ability if I had the 5.7 tundra I'd probably have what you have. My questions were more for my brother in law because be has the same truck as you a d was looking into a 5'er.

No problem, I didn't think that Glad you stopped by

[BarryD0706]

Originally Posted by OldCoot

...
but those can be replaced a lot cheaper than $50,000+ for a diesel.

OC, you're way off on that. I didn't pay anywhere near 50k for my new 1-ton Diesel.

[OldCoot]

Originally Posted by BarryD0706

OC, you're way off on that. I didn't pay anywhere near 50k for my new 1-ton Diesel.

Regardless, it's still more than repairing a rear end or tranny.

[KyDan]

Originally Posted by CZNEDY

I won't be dragging it off to a scale anytime soon. I have too many Campgrounds to drag it off to for the rest of the summer.

If you don't want to know that's fine with me.
Just don't post that you've never been to the scale and say you are under
your load specs in the same sentence!

Around here, there are scales at many of the same truck stops I stop
at for fuel.
Getting weighed is easy, cheap and can be a real education!

[OldCoot]

Originally Posted by KyDan

If you don't want to know that's fine with me.
Just don't post that you've never been to the scale and say you are under
your load specs in the same sentence!...

X2

[dcheatwood]

Originally Posted by F and E Damp

US towing weight limits are ridiculously low. My 03 Kia Sedona is limited to 3500 pounds in the US, but in Europe its rated to tow 3000 Kg (6600 pounds). Same car, same engine and transmission - why the difference?

Manufacturers scared of lawsuits, or maybe they think European drivers are much better?

Obviously, trailers are lighter when towed in the left lane. Lol.

[Rugged Brown]

Originally Posted by BarryD0706

OC, you're way off on that. I didn't pay anywhere near 50k for my new 1-ton Diesel.

I was looking at a new Dodge 2500 diesel Laramie Longhorn here in Nova Scotia last week with a window sticker price north of $83,000. That is $20K more than I paid for my first house.

[Lynkage]

Originally Posted by Rugged Brown

I was looking at a new Dodge 2500 diesel Laramie Longhorn here in Nova Scotia last week with a window sticker price north of $83,000. That is $20K more than I paid for my first house.

WOW! That's alot!! My 450 did not even come close to that.

My first and only house was about three times that.

[dustman_stx]

Just bought a 2011 F250 w/ 6.7, crew, 2x4, XL for less than $25K. 60,000 miles, CPO and CLEAN. All maintenance done at Ford with records. No warranty claims. Had everything for towing- mirrors, locking rear axle, camper package with overloads, factory fifth wheel/gooseneck plate, upfitter switches, factory IBC, etc. Avoid the fancy extras and the price on a diesel will drop like a rock. This same truck in a 4x4 King Ranch would have been north of $40K.

[acadianbob]

Originally Posted by bakken

I would assume that anyone planning to tow a fifth wheel would order max tow. Dodge and Chevy don't give you that option.
I own a new Ram 1500, but I wouldn't tow my Flagstaff with it.

Max Tow buys you a little extra payload. But IMO, you really need HD payload to consider towing a 5er with an F150.

[SaskCampers]

Originally Posted by Rugged Brown

I was looking at a new Dodge 2500 diesel Laramie Longhorn here in Nova Scotia last week with a window sticker price north of $83,000. That is $20K more than I paid for my first house.

YEP,

They are all like that here, F350 KR run north of 85k. Heck there are F150 Limited's and platinum's that run over 70 here. My 11 F250 still has the window sticker in the glove box and it is stickered at 65k and to replace it is over 68 list and it is a gasser.

[OldCoot]

Wouldn't even consider going into debt for a new truck either gas or diesel just to let it sit in the driveway 6-8 months a year.

Besides that, us folks on food stamps can't afford a nice, new, big truck.

[Cajun Po-Boy]

Originally Posted by Dave_Monica

I think you may be in for a surprise. The truck's sticker payload is with full fuel and a 150 lb driver...nothing else. The step bars, tonneau cover, hitch, passengers and gear quickly eat into that.

I towed the same floorplan in a Rockwood with a '05 Ram 1500 with a 1240 lb loaded pin and was 400+ lbs over the truck's GVWR and just under it's RAWR. Your 2011 specs haven't changed and with your trim level and other extras, your truck may weigh even more than mine. A trip to the scale is in order to really how where you are weight-wise.

Dave

X2...get weighed

[Cajun Po-Boy]

Originally Posted by KyDan

If you don't want to know that's fine with me.
Just don't post that you've never been to the scale and say you are under
your load specs in the same sentence!

Around here, there are scales at many of the same truck stops I stop
at for fuel.
Getting weighed is easy, cheap and can be a real education!

X3!

[Cajun Po-Boy]

Originally Posted by dustman_stx

Just bought a 2011 F250 w/ 6.7, crew, 2x4, XL for less than $25K. 60,000 miles, CPO and CLEAN. All maintenance done at Ford with records. No warranty claims. Had everything for towing- mirrors, locking rear axle, camper package with overloads, factory fifth wheel/gooseneck plate, upfitter switches, factory IBC, etc. Avoid the fancy extras and the price on a diesel will drop like a rock. This same truck in a 4x4 King Ranch would have been north of $40K.

That's the best way to buy a diesel truck, slightly older in age and mileage that is not even broken in for these torque monsters...good find!

[goduc]

I'm sure you think all is fine. But I thought the same When I towed a 7300lb TT with an 10 F150 Maxtow. But in reality I was maxed out on GVW and RAWR. Moved on to a Ram 2500 CTD. Night and day. Even w/o the diesel any 3/4 ton will out perform a 1/2 ton.

I now have a 13 Fox Mountain 235 RLS. According to the door sticker the pin is 1385, dry axle is 5860, UVW is 7185. All loaded up the total is 8500lbs. Well under the Rams 12,500 tow rating. But the clincher is the pin weight. I started out at 1385 and as it sits ready to camp its at 1700lbs. In Oregon there are scales on the hwys here and there. Even when they say 'closed' they are still operational. So for giggles I usually pull in. Only takes a couple mins to get weighed. I don't carry any more than the other guy, usually about 11-1300lbs total. The Rams CCC is 2176lbs and the GVW is 9600. Last time across the scales my trucks weight was around 9400lbs. Close to the GVW. So even though I have a 3/4 ton diesel I am still close on GVW. Way under the RAWR, tow rating and GCVWR. It's a give and take with weights. Just because a truck has a high tow rating doesn't mean it can tow it.

Your dry brochure pin is 1046lbs. That goes directly on the trucks GVW and RAWR. Now add another 150lbs for your hitch and your near 1200lbs. According to the Ram site a 1500 Laramie 5.7 only has 1301lbs of payload. You're already near your max payload and you haven't put anything if the front cargo area or in the bedroom yet. Add you and whoever and whatever that goes in the truck and I'm guessing (like you are) that your over the trucks GVW by 4-500lbs and also over the RAWR by 3-500lbs. Your tow rating is 8450 with 3.55's and 9950 with 3.92's. You under your tow rating with either gear choice. So that's good which means the only thing your under is the GCVWR. You don't need a diesel to tow that but IMO a 3/4 is the better choice. If you're happy with the performance then more power to you. You are probably stuck with the 1500 for awhile, but I would look at getting into getting a 3/4 ton if it were me.

[CZNEDY]

A couple of weekends ago, one of my new 1/2 Ton Fun friends stopped by to ask me how the truck handled while towing. We talked for about a 1/2 hour. While we were talking we must have seen at least (4) 3/4 or 1 tons go by with their rear ends sagging low enough to hit a speed bump with the mud flaps. I guess you can overload anything.

[goduc]

Originally Posted by CZNEDY

A couple of weekends ago, one of my new 1/2 Ton Fun friends stopped by to ask me how the truck handled while towing. We talked for about a 1/2 hour. While we were talking we must have seen at least (4) 3/4 or 1 tons go by with their rear ends sagging low enough to hit a speed bump with the mud flaps. I guess you can overload anything.

If everyone jumped off a cliff, would that make it right? Just because other people are overloading their rigs doesn't mean it's right. What about all the others that are under loaded? Are they wrong? Seriously I think you'll be shocked at how much over weight you are. I know from experience that 5'ers tow easier than TT's, and that can be why your setup feels fine. However it doesn't make it correct. Over load your truck with a TT and you'd hate it.