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08-18-2013, 02:55 PM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Iowa
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Originally Posted by miknem1
ok well thanks guys thats what i was looking for some real world answers. i will just roll with the truck and trailer i have and wait tell i can get a bigger truck. i really like the fifth wheels but i wanted to do my research before jumping into something that just didnt sound right in my head no matter how many times the salesman said "no you will be fine". thanks again everybody
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Lol that's the problem with some dealers!
They'll tell you anything to make a sale.
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08-18-2013, 03:14 PM
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Always Learning
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Four Corners, FL
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Originally Posted by f1100turbo
Lol that's the problem with some dealers!
They'll tell you anything to make a sale.
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In their defense- I'd guess a lot of it isn't to do with sleazy sales-folks as it is a lack of proper education. I'm betting many RV sales people aren't RVers and aren't aware of the nuances of weights. The sticker says "1/2-ton towable" and so it is. Or they've seen plenty of people hitch up and go in other sales, so it must be fine. Or.... well, you get it.
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08-18-2013, 03:48 PM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Iowa
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Originally Posted by ependydad
In their defense- I'd guess a lot of it isn't to do with sleazy sales-folks as it is a lack of proper education. I'm betting many RV sales people aren't RVers and aren't aware of the nuances of weights. The sticker says "1/2-ton towable" and so it is. Or they've seen plenty of people hitch up and go in other sales, so it must be fine. Or.... well, you get it.
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Imo ignorance is no excuse when people's lives are at stake.
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08-18-2013, 03:52 PM
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Camper Less Camping
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: NW
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X2...salesman lack of concern/information/experience is a long hard reflection of the Dealership Owner who most likely is or has been an avid RV'er and should make sure their employee's are people whom customers can trust & rely on for proper direction when making this large of a purchase.
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08-18-2013, 05:08 PM
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Guest
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 273
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Most RV and auto sales guys are NOT knowledgable of what they sell. They know everything about the gadgets and financing, but nothing about towing and payload spechs.
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08-18-2013, 10:53 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 903
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Quote:
Originally Posted by f1100turbo
Keep in mind you can't upgrade the tires from p metric passenger style tires to lt truck type tires without upgrading the the wheels as well.
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Not saying your wrong turbs but where did you get this info from. I worked as a tire tech in three shops over a 10 year period and with a couple certified tire experts and was never told this. As long as the truck is kept within its weight specs the heavier ply rating will give more stability. And I've never seen a rim not rated for a higher psi rating.
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08-18-2013, 11:05 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Nebraska
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Ooooooo turns is going to be on you!!!
I'd have to agree with turns though. I had a 95 ram 1500 that I switched to 10 plys but couldn't up my pressure fully due to the spec of the rim... Some may or may not be rated for it already... And definitely replace valve stems... Kind of an obvious but some do overlook it...
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08-18-2013, 11:23 PM
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Missing Link
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Genesee, MI
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Or go with a tt and use the truck you have.
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08-18-2013, 11:30 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Nov 2011
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There are a lot of half ton, 5th wheel rigs out there. Many on this forum. Me for one. Main consideration is pin weight. I bought rock wood 8282ws because it was most trailer, with lowest pin weight, in a floorplan that we liked, that I could find. I still use airbags. A half ton will need some type of suspension help with all but tiniest 5ers. Look around. There are some 5ers out there that your dodge 1500 can handle.
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08-22-2013, 11:38 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Splendora, Texas
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I know of no reason that they, Forest River, should state in their adds that they are 1/2 ton towable. I would not even think of it. I have a 2012 V-Cross 275 fiver and sure enought the add states that it is 1/2 ton towable. Having pulled a lot of fivers and other trailers, I knew better. Empty 7,791 lbs, GWR 9,950 lbs. I pull it with a F250 2011, CC, diesel, RWD, longbed and I would not even consider any less of a truck to pull it.
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08-22-2013, 11:55 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Windsor, Ontario, Canada
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I had a truck dealer tell me that a 1 ton SRW long box had more gvwr capability than the same make 1 ton dually long box. Shook my head and left. Research, research, research and a lot of questions before buying a tt or 5er and matching it to a TV. Air bags don't change the gvwr of a TV, they just give the vehicle the ability to level out. Been there with a 3/4 ton. Now have a 1 ton dually. Much better. If my better half would let me, I'd have an HDT right quick. My two bits.
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