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Old 03-19-2016, 08:55 AM   #1
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Thinking of going 3/4

Currently pulling a 6800lb loaded 30' trailer with a 5.7 Tundra. The power is enough at least for my part of the country where we only have hills. Stopping is never an issue, assuming my trailer brakes don't ever malfunction. On the highway in winds, and with passing big rigs I am pushed around some. Also, with wife, kid, dog, and 55lbs of firewood, I'm 40lbs from MVW. I'm sure as time progresses I'll want to carry more stuff.

Here is the question. If I went to an F250 6.2 gasser for example, would I really feel any difference towing. I know the power would probably be a wash if not feel a little lacking in this example vehicle due to added weight. What I'm really looking for is opinions on if the seat of the pants handling while towing would feel better. Or, is my trailer a little small side for a 3/4 to make much difference from a 1/2 ton.

The other issue with my Tundra is fuel. 26 gallon tank at 8 mpg. Stopping every 1.5-2 hrs for gas and then also stressing as I get to more remote areas gets old. My motorcycle has better range.



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Old 03-19-2016, 09:03 AM   #2
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IMHO the 3/4 ton will have a noticeable handling difference. As for the engine, it has plenty of power but the fuel mileage is not going to much better and range will only increase a bit. I would spend a little more and get the diesel. You won't regret it. More power and much better fuel economy. I am getting 10-12 pulling almost 13000 pounds.

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Old 03-19-2016, 09:26 AM   #3
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I just upgraded my TV from a Ram 1500 5.7L hemi to a Silverado 2500HD with the 6.6L diesel. Two reasons I did this is that the DW and I are planning much longer trips and will eventually move to a 5ver.
I was also getting around 9mpg towing and would have to stop every 1.5 to 2 hrs to find a gas station that was accessible with a TT in tow. I am looking for a vast improvement in that with increased mpg, 36 gal tank and the diesel pumps usually have plenty of clearance for a large vehicle.
I got an extended cab to go with the long bed. With a crew cab and long bed, I thought the vehicle would be too long and wanted the long bed based on reading the forum for 5vers and majority said if they could do it over they would go with a long bed.
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Old 03-19-2016, 09:56 AM   #4
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up grading to a 3/4 HD with tow will be a much better ride then the trundra the 6.2 and 6.0 will out shine the toy . the diesel imo is over kill for the weight of tt you have unless you plan on going larger stick with a gasser imo 2 to 3 mpg does not make up for the added costs and the lower carrying capacity
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Old 03-19-2016, 10:00 AM   #5
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My TT is (selling it now, but have used it for several years) about the exact same size. We pulled it with 1/2 ton Silverado. It was fine. But not great.

Traded for a 3/4 ton Chevy Diesel with 78" bed. The difference in pulling was......I'll say 'highly noticeable' and let it go at that.

Plus, driving the 3/4 ton with 20" tires down the freeway, without towing, was like driving on a cloud (once I let a few pounds of air out of the back tires). I now have the dually version of the same truck, and it doesn't ride as smoothly.

You will most definitely notice a difference, and at that size truck, the diesel will get superior fuel mileage.
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Old 03-19-2016, 10:06 AM   #6
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I went from a 1/2 to a 3/4 ton with a 5er then 1 ton, big difference in tow capability with the 1 ton. but I still have to stoip often as the RAM only has a 26 gal tank. my 3/4 2500HD GMC had a 36 gal tank .
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Old 03-19-2016, 10:09 AM   #7
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Long bed Ford got me a few extra gallons over the short bed.
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Old 03-19-2016, 10:14 AM   #8
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Over kill is under-rated....get the diesel so you can upgrade the camper later. Then join us in the left lane when you pull up that 5 mile grade!
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Old 03-19-2016, 10:24 AM   #9
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IMO gas 3/4 tons are a good match for TTs in the 7000-8000 lb. range & a gas 3/4 is a LOT cheaper to buy & operate than a diesel... For instance, we bought a 2 year-old Ram 2500 CC w/5.7 Hemi for $14K. It has a payload of 3,000, was still under warranty, & had no Ohio rust. In comparison $20K would only fetch an older diesel 3/4 ton with no warranty, more rust, and less payload (due to the heavier engine...)

We keeping adding more gear every year so I'm glad our 2500 has a payload of 3,000... Our front pass-through storage is packed full, we keep enough FW for a couple flushes, & we carry (7) heavy/comfy camping chairs under the (front) master bed. Therefore the (empty) tongue weight of 650 becomes 1200 ready-to-camp.

Our family of 5 & 1 dog add 700 lbs. to the payload, so with a couple tools & safety equipment on-board we're at a payload of 2,000 before adding anything to the PU bed. Last year I added a fiberglass cap which keeps our 5 bikes, 3 scooters, firewood, waste tote, fishing gear, etc. totally dry while keeping the stuff that gets dirty out of our TT... With this setup our payload is around 2,500 before adding 200-300 lbs. of firewood...

With affordable Equalizer 4 1200 WDH & very near our GCVW limit we had no trouble towing throughout the Smoky Mountains last summer. [And, I do not remember any other TTs/5ers passing me - although I passed some very heavy 5ers that challenged even the best diesel 1 tons...] I get 15-17 mpg on my daily commute & 8-10 mpg towing depending on wind/terrain. With 30 gallon tank we can drive 4 hours before refueling - which is about as long as our kids/dog can hold-out...
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Old 03-19-2016, 10:34 AM   #10
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The 3/4 ton diesel Chevy got 21-24 on highway (when I could hold her back, she wanted to do 90 if you let her.....but 68 was prime MPG mark), and I regularly got 13.5 mpg pulling the camper.........but I also got 13.5 when I pulled anything......the ATV 16' utility trailer, or the 19' bass boat.....

The dually hasn't pulled anything yet, but without pulling it's 1 1/2 mpg less so far.

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