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Old 12-31-2015, 04:48 PM   #61
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Guys, these trucks have what's called ARC (accessory reserve capacity) of hundreds of pounds.

That's because the OEM only prints weights for bone stock units with no options. You start adding things like massively heavy stereos (10lbs) side steps (30lbs) leather seats (5lbs) tri-coat paint (8lbs) or a bedliner (17lbs) and you can eat up a 100lbs real quick. Leaving you with only an additional 400 to 600 lbs of reserve capacity left.

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https://www.fleet.ford.com/truckbbas...%20Payload.pdf
Are you implying that every truck has hundreds of pounds of capacity beyond their payload rating?

Because they dont. Every option or accessory added that increases weight takes away from available payload. Payload is calculated with a 150lb driver and full fluids as built. Everything beyond that is subtracted from payload.

My payload per my door sticker is 3100 lbs with a 10,000lb GVWR, so as built it is supposedly 6900lbs.

With me, wife, 2 kids, car seats, dog, running boards, bed cover, bed mat, mud flaps, blocking, cooler, hitch, etc... my truck scales at about 7600lbs, leaving just 2400lbs of payload ready to camp. 700lbs less that my door sticker states, regardless of what ARC is.
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Old 12-31-2015, 05:00 PM   #62
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X2.

My 2500 scaled at 7919. Without me in it.
Gvwr was 10k and sticker said 2100 payload.

Added my family, hitch and parents.
( four adults and a 3yr old)
A few bags in the back.
All I had left was 800lbs payload.
With no trailer.


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Old 12-31-2015, 07:13 PM   #63
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X2.

My 2500 scaled at 7919. Without me in it.
Gvwr was 10k and sticker said 2100 payload.

Added my family, hitch and parents.
( four adults and a 3yr old)
A few bags in the back.
All I had left was 800lbs payload.
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You forgot to add the bag of Cheetos. I saw the bag. LOL
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Old 12-31-2015, 09:55 PM   #65
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Guys, these trucks have what's called ARC (accessory reserve capacity) of hundreds of pounds.

That's because the OEM only prints weights for bone stock units with no options. You start adding things like massively heavy stereos (10lbs) side steps (30lbs) leather seats (5lbs) tri-coat paint (8lbs) or a bedliner (17lbs) and you can eat up a 100lbs real quick. Leaving you with only an additional 400 to 600 lbs of reserve capacity left.

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Here's an example of how it works
https://www.fleet.ford.com/truckbbas...%20Payload.pdf
Yeah i dont know how a pdf from 6 years ago would be accurate now.

Plusss...
On my truck the brochure showed the pay load to be about 5200 for my make, model, drive, and engine. But the door jam sticker shows 4700ish. Thats because the denali's come with spray in bed liner, step bars, cooled and heated leather seats, a bigger radio/nav screen, plus the optional sunroof and a/t tires and so the extra 500ish pounds is easily explained. Plus from my research the door sticker actually does not include a driver...best i recall.

Honestly i couldn't care less what the op tows with. Yes he's probably overloaded with the numbers he posted in his original post, but the chances of him having a problem towing that setup with me or any of us around is pretty slim.
Op...good luck shopping!! That's the best part of our sport
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Yeah i dont know how a pdf from 6 years ago would be accurate now.

Plusss...
On my truck the brochure showed the pay load to be about 5200 for my make, model, drive, and engine. But the door jam sticker shows 4700ish. Thats because the denali's come with spray in bed liner, step bars, cooled and heated leather seats, a bigger radio/nav screen, plus the optional sunroof and a/t tires and so the extra 500ish pounds is easily explained. Plus from my research the door sticker actually does not include a driver...best i recall.

Honestly i couldn't care less what the op tows with. Yes he's probably overloaded with the numbers he posted in his original post, but the chances of him having a problem towing that setup with me or any of us around is pretty slim.
Op...good luck shopping!! That's the best part of our sport
I read Big Toe's post, I thought he was being funny, As I saw nothing in the link that would lead me to think my F150 was up for the task of the OP's question, I wish. I would be on that 5er model order tomorrow.

Reminds me of the old saying, Talk to enough people and you will hear what you want to hear.
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I read Big Toe's post, I thought he was being funny, As I saw nothing in the link that would lead me to think my F150 was up for the task of the OP's question, I wish. I would be on that 5er model order tomorrow.

Reminds me of the old saying, Talk to enough people and you will hear what you want to hear.
Sorry, i didn't see a smiley face or a winky face so i thought he was serious. I'm sure with the bashing he's gotten now, even if he was, it would be played off now.

Anyways....doubt anyone actully believes much on these kinda threads anyways.
But they are always a great reason for everybody to reseach things for them selves.

Plus I'm in the automotive and auto collision industries so i have alot of current knowledge (maybe too much) about what vehicles can, and can't do, and what happens in worse case scenarios.
Stuff happens regardless of what you plan for! Best to plan ahead!
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MillerTime, I am smiling as I write this, Your avatar, Who is that big dude in the tractor? Looks like he has big boots too.
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MillerTime, I am smiling as I write this, Your avatar, Who is that big dude in the tractor? Looks like he has big boots too.
That's my baby boy. He's about 4.5 year's old now. Think he was 2 then. It goes faster as i get old, as im sure most on here know better than I do. My oldest will be getting her first car in about a year.....its crazy!
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I have a 2014 F150 EB 3.55 with Max Tow, looking at Crusader 295 so weight and pin I am good have to get BFG's replacing Pirelli's and putting 2.5" air suspension in rear to level the rear when 5'er is attached.

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