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Old 12-29-2015, 12:55 PM   #1
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This 5er with an F150?

Tow Truck:
3.5 Ecoboost, 3.73's, Max Tow, 1820 payload, LT Tires

5'er:
GVWR 8,043
Hitch Weight 1,043
UVW 6,556
CCC 1,487
Exterior Length 25'8"

I realize that these are dry weights not "wet" and optioned.

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Not interested in discussion about 250's, 350's, diesels. Just is this a reasonably workable combination. It seems workable to me.
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Old 12-29-2015, 01:15 PM   #2
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Get a dually...kidding...


Close on payload, but seems do-able. Gross weight of the trailer is pretty reasonable and it has great ccc, so you can minimize the cargo weight you put into the truck. Nice looking rig.
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I plug in your payload and made some guess - 200 lbs driver 150 lbs passengers 100lbs of other stuff in the truck and in the bed and hitch weight and this is what I come up with.

"You're adding approximately 700 lbs. to the truck. You have 1,120 lbs. of payload capacity. Fifth wheels typically have 20% - 25% pin weight which gives you a maximum loaded camper weight of 4,480 - 5,600 lbs."

Here is the web page I used and the numbers is used.

Towing Calculator based on Truck's Payload/CCC - Towing Planner

I believe the Towing Planner is written by member of this forum.
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OK, this seems like it is on the edge. I've got 250 lbs in tonneau and side steps. Me, wife, 2 dogs; probably 350. Hitch 250. Other stuff 100. I'm probably below 1,000 lbs remaining. . . . .

Make the trailer weights wet and optioned and I'm probably over payload by 200 to 300 pounds. 10 to 15% overload.

It's amazing how you can eat up that payload.
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The problem I had when I tried to stubby pencil weights was FR site showed a dry percentage weight of 19.8 but adding only 1180 lbs my pin weight jump for dry 1950 to 2740 and 24.1 percent. I was working with 2475 payload coming to close for my comfort to my gross axle weights.
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Old 12-29-2015, 02:27 PM   #6
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Yup, not enough payload in your truck for that 5er. Someone else already did the math so I won't repeat.
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Tow Truck:
3.5 Ecoboost, 3.73's, Max Tow, 1820 payload, LT Tires

5'er:
GVWR 8,043
Hitch Weight 1,043
UVW 6,556
CCC 1,487
Exterior Length 25'8"

I realize that these are dry weights not "wet" and optioned.

Cherokee Fifth Wheels / Travel Trailers by Forest River RV

Not interested in discussion about 250's, 350's, diesels. Just is this a reasonably workable combination. It seems workable to me.
Put your choice of some Supersprings or airbags on it, a Hellwig sway bar and you just won't have a problem. At all.

Not even close to a problem.

You could even do it without the bags/springs and the sway bar,IMHO. But why not do it for your own peace of mind.

ETA: 5th wheel hitches sometimes interfere with bags and/or sway bars. Be advised.

But you're not even close to what that bad boy can do
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If the truck had the HD package, you would have plenty of payload, but with just the Max Tow pkg, you will probably be over. A lot of it will depend whether you want to be that limited.

We towed our 5'er with our F-150 EB Crew Cab and it was wonderful, but we had both MaxTow and HD pkg on ours.
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I wouldn't do it.
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If the truck had the HD package, you would have plenty of payload, but with just the Max Tow pkg, you will probably be over. A lot of it will depend whether you want to be that limited.

We towed our 5'er with our F-150 EB Crew Cab and it was wonderful, but we had both MaxTow and HD pkg on ours.
What's the HD package add?
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