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Old 08-10-2016, 07:09 PM   #31
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My 1500 Silverado has no issue towing my 7000 pound empty TT. Have not seen any serious grades as of yet, but it accelerates and maintains highway speeds at ease. It can cruise at 65 mph below 2000 rpm. Not sure how a 2500 would be that much better if it has the same engine and rear gears. My TV has the towing package and is rated at 9500 pounds.
Funny you posted this. I thought this as well. It didn't dawn on me until I pulled the new 2500 in our small driveway, and then looked back at it. It's just plain bigger.
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Old 08-10-2016, 07:17 PM   #32
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Old 08-10-2016, 07:19 PM   #33
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Funny you posted this. I thought this as well. It didn't dawn on me until I pulled the new 2500 in our small driveway, and then looked back at it. It's just plain bigger.

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I have the same TT as you (282RK), that I use to tow with a 2010 Ram 5.7 Hemi, 3.55 gears and tow package. I got tired of watching the trans temp, and oil temps go well over 200 degrees. (We go out to the southwest each year). I purchased a 2015 Chevy 2500 crew cab with the 6.0 and 4.10 gears last year, and what a big difference. Tows the TT so much better with temps remaining below 185 degrees. Better payload (2750 lbs.) and towing capacity. 13'000 lbs for TT and 14,000 for fifth wheel. We are now looking for a fifth wheel, but will not go over 12,000 GVWR on the unit. Any comments or suggestions from those of you with this, or a similar setup, would be appreciated!
I believe going to the Chevrolet really made the difference from the Dodge. My point was, how would a 3/4 ton help me tow any better than I am now? My temps stay in the normal range towing through 100 plus degrees in Texas. I believe the 6.0 has about 50 more hp and the 4.10 gears are better for sure. I like my gas milage when I'm not towing over the 6.0.
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Old 08-10-2016, 08:53 PM   #35
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dmdomokos,

Thanks for sharing your experiences. There's no question that there's no comparison in towing performance between a 5.3 liter Suburban and a Duramax, but the Suburban towing performance that you describe sounds unreasonably poor for a 7100lb loaded trailer. 18mph in first gear up most grades to Vegas! Are you sure there wasn't something else going on there? Did the Burb have the towing package with the 3.42 axle ratio or the standard 3.08? Suburban loaded down with people and luggage in addition to the trailer? Possible something wrong with the truck? Unless you were WAY over your GCWR I would expect better power than that.

I tow a 23IKSS that's about 800lbs less (loaded) then your trailer with a 2003 Suburban 5.3 (285hp)/4sp/3.73 vs your 5.3(320hp)/6sp/3.42. Assuming you have the factory towing package, your drivetrain should tow considerably better than mine. I've had to drop to second gear to maintain 50-55 mph up some grades in western MD and upstate NY, but never anything close to crawling in first gear. Loaded and ready to camp I'm generally at or just below my GVW and GCVW.
The hills in the EAST are mole hills in THE WEST. I have been up the hills he was talking about, and they are straight up and straight down, at 7-9% grades. They even taxes my "05" Duramax 3500.
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I believe going to the Chevrolet really made the difference from the Dodge. My point was, how would a 3/4 ton help me tow any better than I am now? My temps stay in the normal range towing through 100 plus degrees in Texas. I believe the 6.0 has about 50 more hp and the 4.10 gears are better for sure. I like my gas milage when I'm not towing over the 6.0.
Apples to oranges.

I used to think a half ton gas was fine and it was for the most part on flat land. Gove it a good cross wind or some hills and you'll find its weaknesses. Having bigger axles, brakes, an exhaust brake and an engine that always pulls in high gear is a relaxing feeling that I didn't understand until I got one. I'll only go back to gas if I ditch the camper.

Diesel here is the same price as E10 gas and I do 18-20 so I'm good with the fuel economy too.
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Old 08-10-2016, 09:27 PM   #37
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My 1500 Silverado has no issue towing my 7000 pound empty TT. Have not seen any serious grades as of yet, but it accelerates and maintains highway speeds at ease. It can cruise at 65 mph below 2000 rpm. Not sure how a 2500 would be that much better if it has the same engine and rear gears. My TV has the towing package and is rated at 9500 pounds.

I am starting to think that pickup manufacturers should add a duty cycle rating with their tow ratings. Think of it similar to welders. For 500 bucks I bought a welder that is rated to weld 1/2" steel, but it only has a 13% duty cycle, meaning for every hour it is running it can only be welding steel 13% of that time and the rest of the time it has to be cooling off. For more money I could buy a welder that has 100% duty cycle for 1/2" steel. It can weld that said steel non stop alL day long every day of the week. Yes lots of half tons have almost similar tow ratings to their 3/4 ton And one ton bretheren. But the duty cycle on the half ton towing 11,000 pounds is much less then the 3/4 ton towing 11,000 pounds. You can pull that much continuous with the 3/4 ton with minimal issues, Ye the half ton Will not last.
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Every day I shake my head when reading how under trucked a lot of you are.Too small is dangerous and exhausting Go big or stay at home,Ive been there and done that,get a diesel if you want to enjoy the trip.
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The hills in the EAST are mole hills in THE WEST. I have been up the hills he was talking about, and they are straight up and straight down, at 7-9% grades. They even taxes my "05" Duramax 3500.
Believe me, the east has 7-9% grades; I've been on them. They may not go 3 or 4 miles, but they can go a mile or more.
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Every day I shake my head when reading how under trucked a lot of you are.Too small is dangerous and exhausting Go big or stay at home,Ive been there and done that,get a diesel if you want to enjoy the trip.
Don't need a diesel to enjoy the trip....lots of campers are easily pulled with a gas powered TV. Why does everything become gas vs. diesel on this forum?
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