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Old 12-21-2015, 03:06 PM   #31
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So far, this thread has been all about trucks. The largest TV I have ever owned was a '91 Suburban I used to tow a 25ft sailboat. I insisted on 4WD to pull the boat out of the water at a ramp (which worked wonderfully compared to my previous 2WD vehicles).


Pulling A-frames or PUPs, my TVs have been a '93 Ford Explorer (4WD) and now a 2008 Hyundai Entourage (minivan, FWD). The minivan is by far the better tow vehicle (power, ride). But I have found tires make all the difference in Colorado snow country. Give me FWD with Blizzacks in the snow and ice over 4WD with all-season tires any day of the week from November to May.


Yes, I am a little cautious as to which Colorado dirt roads I will take my minivan/A-frame on. There is a rating system for these roads, and I just don't go where the rating is 4WD mandatory. I don't really miss out, because as has been pointed out, I'm not really keen on finding out how rugged my A-frame isn't. Neither vehicle has a high clearance - high-centering on a difficult trail isn't my cup of tea. Plenty of great camping places that are easily accessible that I haven't been too yet. And the wife prefers flush potties in the campground!


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Old 12-21-2015, 03:08 PM   #32
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4x4 on a truck in not an option as far as I am concerned. Its a requirement.
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Old 12-21-2015, 03:28 PM   #33
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I have always had 4X4 full size trucks, 7 pickups so far. I had a GMC Asstro Van 2 wheel drive that when backing the TT anywhere near a hill was next to useless. We live in the snowbelt and get dumped on often so just getting around 4 wheel has it down.,
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Old 12-21-2015, 03:55 PM   #34
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In 1976 I stopped buying muscle cars and started buying trucks. Everyone has been a 4X4. Not sure there is a reason for a 2 wheeler,,,
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Old 12-21-2015, 04:24 PM   #35
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I believe, it's better to have 4x4 and not need it, than to need it, and not have 4x4.

So yes, all my trucks since 1985 have had 4x4, including the ones I tow with now.
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Old 12-21-2015, 04:39 PM   #36
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I got a 2X2 Chevy one ton gas and had to get pulled out by a ford bronco in wet grass. I got a 4X4 diesel 3500 and had to get pulled out by a ram 2500 diesel in wet muddy grass going up hill. He was on the road. My ram and 18000lb load just sat there all four spinning. I have used the 4 wheel drive where it worked to move me along though.
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Old 12-21-2015, 04:51 PM   #37
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To pay my way through college I worked for a utility company & drove 2WD work trucks off the beaten path to get to isolated utility poles, etc. We rarely got stuck due to all of the weight in the back & we were places I would NEVER drag a trailer... The couple times I did get stuck I freed myself in 10 minutes with a shovel & some wood planks - like I now carry to level my TT...

So when I found a 2 year-old Ram 2500 ST 2WD for $14K, I snatched it right up vs. paying $18K+ for a 4WD same year/same miles... Each winter I add about 800 lbs. of sand in the back & routinely pass the 4wd boys who drift off snowy roads because they're running too low on weight & too high on confidence.... My 5.7 Hemi gets 16-17 mpg on my daily commute compared to their 15 mpg w/same engine & my maintenance is lower...

However, I DO start to spin on loose gravel when backing my 8,000 lb. TT up a hill & into tight campsites. I am careful not to sling stones...., so I just pull forward & gently restart... The last couple times I only needed to pull-forward once before I was able to back into an almost 90 degree site in one fluid motion...

I figure, I always have Good Sams if I truly get stuck out & about... And, at campsites most everyone is eager to help... Although I haven't had to ask for a tow (yet), good camping neighbors have always offered their help with other issues...
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Old 12-21-2015, 05:06 PM   #38
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Another thought that a car salesmen told me once come to mind. If you buy a diesel for sure ensure you get a 4x4 otherwise keep the truck on hard surface otherwise due to the extra weight you will for sure be spinning your tires.
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Old 12-21-2015, 05:20 PM   #39
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I've owned both. In my younger years the 4X4 was useful as we were tent campers and would often go off road in the Sierras to camp. I have also lived in snowy and mountainous areas out west where it was a choice of 4-wheel drive or chains. I much prefer to stay in the warm car than try to put on chains in cold, icy weather. Since moving to the south however I have only owned 4X2 vehicles. I live in an area that if it snows everyone stays home until it melts. I don't own a boat so have no need to be concerned about slippery boat ramps. I get better mileage and have less expensive repairs than I did on the 4X4's. Resale value is higher on the 4X4 but when you keep a vehicle for 10-15 years like I do resale value isn't that important since most cars are worth next to nothing by then. I'm of the mind if someone rather have a 4X4 over a 4X2 who cares. I'm not the type that has to justify something I want just to feel good about it. If I were I wouldn't have a 71' Volvo 1800E sitting in my garage sucking money while it is slowly being restored.
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Old 12-21-2015, 06:11 PM   #40
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4X4 the only way to go, its like having a diesel you will never go back to gas. Once owning a 4X4 you will never go back to 2wd. They will take you where you want or need to go. Besides they look cool.
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