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08-10-2012, 06:57 AM
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Camper Less Camping
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Timbrens vs Air Bags
I like the "install and forget about them" concept behind the Timbrens but do you get the same degree of leveling the rear of the truck as an air bag system?
I understand the convenience of adjusting air bags for various load weights to the truck so you can get perfect level as necessary but is it much different than the Timbrens?
Have an '05 Chevy 2500hd 6.6 and the bed cargo capacity is over 3K lbs and our new fifth wheel pin weight will come in around 2-2250 lbs when loaded, thinking I may not even have much of a rear sag issue.
Any thoughts will be helpful
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08-10-2012, 07:30 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Waynesville
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Bags come into play at (Your) discretion,Timbers come on at load touch. Youroo!!
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08-10-2012, 09:20 AM
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Mod free 5er
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Concord, NC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ragin Cajun
I like the "install and forget about them" concept behind the Timbrens but do you get the same degree of leveling the rear of the truck as an air bag system?
I understand the convenience of adjusting air bags for various load weights to the truck so you can get perfect level as necessary but is it much different than the Timbrens?
Have an '05 Chevy 2500hd 6.6 and the bed cargo capacity is over 3K lbs and our new fifth wheel pin weight will come in around 2-2250 lbs when loaded, thinking I may not even have much of a rear sag issue.
Any thoughts will be helpful
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I would go with the air bags and an onboard compressor. That way YOU control the amount of height. With the Timbrens, you have to accept whatever you get.
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08-11-2012, 04:07 PM
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I installed Timbrens because I only needed a little help. They work great and do not affect the unloaded ride since they only touch when the bed drops more than one inch. I read in Turbo Diesel Register that they are equal to about 10 lbs Firestone Air. Also, they cost less than $200.00.
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08-14-2012, 07:55 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2012
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For another $100 you could have airbags, and you can install them yourself in the driveway in about 4 hours. See this link:
http://powerstrokearmy.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=21571
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2012 Sandpiper 365SAQ
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08-14-2012, 08:03 AM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Iowa
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Big big fan of air bags.
Got them on my 05 Silverado 2500 hd
And my 99 suburban.
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08-14-2012, 09:24 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Wisconsin
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I have not had Airbags but have Timbrens. I must say that I am less than impressed. It did help keep everything tight in the back end and sway is much better but for leveling, it is doing almost nothing. If I had to do it again, I would do airbags.
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08-14-2012, 10:44 AM
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Senior Member
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Location: Kansas City & Sierra Vista
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Love the air bags... I routed the lines so the nipples are either side of my rear license plate... easy to fill and adjust. When not towing, I drop the pressure to ~ 10psi which pretty well returns the truck to factory suspension.
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2012 Crusader 290RLT TE, TrailAir flex pin: 2012 Toyota Tundra 5.7 SR5 Dbl cab 4X2 Tow, 4.30 gears, RideRite air, TRD cold-air induction & dual exhaust: Reese 16K Slider: TST tpms
Miles towed to date: 26,890; Nights camped; lost count!
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08-14-2012, 10:52 AM
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Location: Concord, NC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by J_KHawthorne
Love the air bags... I routed the lines so the nipples are either side of my rear license plate... easy to fill and adjust. When not towing, I drop the pressure to ~ 10psi which pretty well returns the truck to factory suspension.
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Why not add a 'T' and fill them both at one time?
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08-14-2012, 01:40 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Upstate (Albany Area) NY
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My Timbren installation did the trick for me. Easy to install, zero mantenance, no propensity for failure. (Especially a failure on-the-road, when you can do little to properly repair it!)
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08-14-2012, 01:46 PM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
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Location: Iowa
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dunnnc
Why not add a 'T' and fill them both at one time?
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That's not recommended.
On a hard turn air deflates from one side and adds to the other side thus not helping in roll.
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08-14-2012, 01:47 PM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
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Location: Iowa
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire Instructor
My Timbren installation did the trick for me. Easy to install, zero mantenance, no propensity for failure. (Especially a failure on-the-road, when you can do little to properly repair it!)
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99 suburban 268,000 miles no failures .
Zero
Just sayin
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08-14-2012, 02:18 PM
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Location: Concord, NC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by f1100turbo
That's not recommended.
On a hard turn air deflates from one side and adds to the other side thus not helping in roll.
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Been hooked that way every since 95 and never had a problem with it. Don't rely on them for 'cornering' as the overloads come into play real quick.
Plus, with an onboard compressor, not going to run all the plumbing inside the cab with a directional valve fitting. Just not worth the effort or clutter.
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08-14-2012, 02:20 PM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dunnnc
Been hooked that way every since 95 and never had a problem with it. Don't rely on the for 'cornering' as the overloads come into play real quick.
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Lol just another man's opinion!
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08-14-2012, 02:44 PM
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Location: Concord, NC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by f1100turbo
Lol just another man's opinion!
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you bet, opinions are like (you know what), everyone's got one.
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08-14-2012, 05:57 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Kansas City & Sierra Vista
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dunnnc
Why not add a 'T' and fill them both at one time?
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Hi, dunnnc! While the "T" will work fine, I do like to be able to balance the load at times... At a recent trip from HD, the boys loaded 19 bags of cement and 5 bags of grass seed into my truck as I was shamelessly flirting with the girl at checkout. Guess where the cement ended up? Right... on the driver's side.
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2012 Crusader 290RLT TE, TrailAir flex pin: 2012 Toyota Tundra 5.7 SR5 Dbl cab 4X2 Tow, 4.30 gears, RideRite air, TRD cold-air induction & dual exhaust: Reese 16K Slider: TST tpms
Miles towed to date: 26,890; Nights camped; lost count!
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10-01-2012, 03:20 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Missouri
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Looking into the airbags for our 2001 Silverado 1500. The airbags & installation run anywhere from a quote of $500 to $1000, which is a BIG spread; we only want the basic airbags as the truck is old with high mileage. Checked with a local RV dealer and a tire/auto company, both were the high bids. Camping World was the lowest so far.
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10-01-2012, 03:31 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2012
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I'm diggin' the timbrens I put in my Suburban. I'm going to get them for my 2500 before I get my 5th wheel.
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10-01-2012, 07:42 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Paintsville, KY
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We have Air Lift bags on the Sequoia and love them! I added them after getting our weight distribution all set up to firm up the ride and they do great. I usually run about 25# of air and don't ever air them down as it really doesn't affect the ride when empty enough to bother.
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10-03-2012, 08:55 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2012
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Warning to half ton guys, removed my Timbrens as they didn't let the truck settle enough to make proper use of the WD bars witch also effects sway control on an equ-i-lizer and actually over loaded my rear axle.
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