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Old 05-27-2014, 04:13 PM   #1
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Time for new tires on my 2011 Dodge Ram 1500 TV. It has 265/70/17 on it now. Any particular brand that anyone has had good luck with?
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Old 05-27-2014, 04:23 PM   #3
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Time for new tires on my 2011 Dodge Ram 1500 TV. It has 265/70/17 on it now. Any particular brand that anyone has had good luck with?
I put some michelins on mine 2 years ago, still look like new after 12,000 miles or more......I'm sure you will get all kinds of recommendations but I think they are best tire made IMO only......
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I just put a set of Goodyear Wrangler SR-As on my F150 in that size. So far, I like those puppies. A road tire with a bit of an aggressive tread. Even though they are still considered a "P" tire, the weight rating is much more that the Nankooks that came on my truck. I wanted to go to a LT tire, but it seems most of those have "E" ratings, an overkill for a 1/2 ton truck.

I just got my $40 rebate in the mail from Goodyear today, but that offer expires on 5/31/14. I also sold my Nankooks with 44,000 miles for $60, so that helped some with the new tire costs.
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I would suggest Cooper Discover AT/3. You can get them in E rating and they ride quite nicely and quiet. Just purchased a set today for the government rig in that exact same size. But, I do drive on roads out here in the desert that you might not drive on. (We are slowly converting almost all our tires to Cooper, either AT/3, STT or S/T Maxx.)

The Goodyears that came on the rig were shot at 25K miles, and the back rear right, blew last Thursday. Lucky it was a dirt trail and not on the interstate.
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... but it seems most of those have "E" ratings, an overkill for a 1/2 ton truck...
In what way? Price?
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In what way? Price?
I didn't need a stiff sidewalled tire rated at 3000+ lbs ea. (6000 lbs. per axle) for axles only rated at 3850 lbs. The SR-As I bought are 2500 lbs each....still way above my axle ratings.
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Just bought Michelin LTX M/S2s, LT245/70R17 LR E for my 2005 Dodge Durango 5.7L Hemi 4x2.

http://m.michelinman.com/tire-select...2/tire-details

Haven't towed yet but much more stable than previous crappy P-rated tires. I'm confident they'll tow better. I definitely feel details in the road more but it's acceptable.

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And don't forget that P-rated tires are to be de-rated 9% when mounted on trucks or SUVs. Your 2500# tires are actually only ~2275 but, yes, that exceeds your axle rated at 3850.

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I didn't need a stiff sidewalled tire rated at 3000+ lbs ea. (6000 lbs. per axle) for axles only rated at 3850 lbs. The SR-As I bought are 2500 lbs each....still way above my axle ratings.
I completely agree. LT tires without the beefed up axle and everything else that comes with a HD payload package is a waste on a 1/2 ton and the ride will be very stiff for a daily driver. Just get tires that can handle a bit more than your GAWR. Besides, I suspect most OEM wheels that have P tires mounted from the factory can't take the 80 psi you'd be able to put in an LR E tire anyway but I could be wrong on that.
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No law that says an E rated tire HAS to be inflated to 80#. I have E's on my 1/2 T and run 35 in the front and 30 in the rear unloaded and it rides just fine. When towing they go to 60 front 65 in rear.

You folks don't want to overload the truck by a wide margin, but the tires don't make any difference. Unbelievable. JMO
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And don't forget that P-rated tires are to be de-rated 9% when mounted on trucks or SUVs.
Huh ??
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And don't forget that P-rated tires are to be de-rated 9% when mounted on trucks or SUVs. Your 2500# tires are actually only ~2275 but, yes, that exceeds your axle rated at 3850.
Huh ??
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Also consider that Special Trailer (ST), as well as Light Truck (LT) tires are fully rated for trailer applications. This means ST- and LT-sized tires can carry the full weight rating branded on the sidewalls when used on a trailer.

However when P-metric or Euro-metric tires are used on a trailer, the load capacity branded on the sidewalls must be reduced by 9%. This means P-metric or Euro-metric tires with a maximum branded load rating of 1,874 lbs. for use on a car is only rated to carry 1,705 lbs. when used on a trailer.

..."

That's a DOT reg that applies to SUVs and pickups, as well. At least, that's my understanding but I may have misread it elsewhere. If correct, manufacturers must use the reduced rating when calculating load capacity for SUVs and trucks. If your de-rated P tires exceed the rating of the axle, it's a moot point.

C, D or E tires do reduce squirm when towing. Unfortunately I was unable to find C or D (I preferred D) tires in the size I was looking for (245/70R17) so had to settle for LR-E. I'm satisfied with the result but am relegating my Durango to TV status, replacing it as a daily driver with a compact car. (DS graduated high school and I'm no longer transporting high school sport teams to meets.) If I were not retiring the Durango I might look further for LR-C or LR-D, or make other decisions.
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Unfortunately I was unable to find C or D (I preferred D) tires in the size I was looking for (245/70R17) so had to settle for LR-E. I'm satisfied with the result but am relegating my Durango to TV status, replacing it as a daily driver with a compact car. (DS graduated high school and I'm no longer transporting high school sport teams to meets.) If I were not retiring the Durango I might look further for LR-C or LR-D, or make other decisions.
The linked article refers to P rated tires on trailers, not on SUVs or trucks.

I too could not easily find C or D rated LT tires in my size, that is why I went with the Goodyear Wrangler SR-As in a P rated.
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The linked article refers to P rated tires on trailers, not on SUVs or trucks.
I acknowledged that in my post but recall (perhaps incorrectly?) reading elsewhere that it applies to SUVs and trucks, as well.
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No law that says an E rated tire HAS to be inflated to 80#. I have E's on my 1/2 T and run 35 in the front and 30 in the rear unloaded and it rides just fine. When towing they go to 60 front 65 in rear.

You folks don't want to overload the truck by a wide margin, but the tires don't make any difference. Unbelievable. JMO
OC, my F-150 has the max. towing package but not the HD payload package. The axles are rated at 3750# for the front and 4000# for the rear. My current P275/65R18 tires have a load rating of 2640# per tire (at 44 psi) so with 5280# per axle they are well over the capability of my axles.

What advantage am I going to get by spending an extra $300 on a set of LT tires when the P tires I have exceed the axle ratings, are more than stout enough for my towing needs and they are more compliant for daily driving?
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Some don't like the feeling of fish tailing even if it's not really happening.
By which you're referring to the squirm some describe when using P tires?
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And in addition to the squirm, it causes premature wear. Ask me how I know! Put a set of GY Fortera's on my truck (over $1100) and got less than 30,000 miles on them even with 44# in them towing. Never again, but it's your money and your truck.
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