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Old 01-28-2016, 02:33 PM   #11
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You plan on taking the Escape to save money on fuel, wonder what MPG you'll be getting towing? You said your truck got 15 MPG towing it, I bet you you'll spend less in fuel pulling it with your diesel.
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Old 01-28-2016, 08:24 PM   #12
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You will be lucky if you get 15 mpg with the escape. I bet you get less. I agree with the others, take the truck!
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Old 01-28-2016, 08:49 PM   #13
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Also consider the wear on the Escape, it will be working much more than your truck. If it was short trip fine, but 8,500 to 9,000 miles is a lot. Will it be fine or will it struggle? Sounds like hauling around the Flagstaff with your truck you'd barely notice it there and if could add brakes on the cheap that'd be a nice upgrade to a little trailer. Could be a perfect combo for getting into small, tight spots and traveling the back roads.

Let us know what you decide.

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Old 01-28-2016, 10:21 PM   #14
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Had a Subaru outback, which would get 25mpg running by it self. So I decided to tow my trailer with my ATV, (trailer and ATV about a 1000lb, Subaru was rated at 2000lb towing ) from Philipsburg Montana to Marysvale, Utah, about 1100 mi I thought it would be cheaper than driving my truck which got 14mpg with the ATV on it. Well I ended getting 14mpg, and a lot of ware and tare on the the Subaru. I would use the truck, and probably take the big trailer for the comfort, and safety, from animals, (i just don't feel safe in a tent) I live in bear, and big cat areas.
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Old 01-29-2016, 07:42 AM   #15
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Towing

We have travelled extensively in our pop up before upgrading. Never had a worry about critters bothering us.....until one dark and moonless night...camping on national land near Sunset Crater, Flagstaff, AZ. We were awakened by howling coyotes really close....and heard something very large snuffling right at our door......opened it with the wife and 3 kids all huddled around....could not see a thing. Got out the floodlight, only to find a bull with huge horns and his herd from the song Ghost Riders In the Sky staring me down just a foot away! His red eyes flared and snorting as they all stampeded off! Scared the crap out of us all from the suddenness of it! Do not think we slept the rest of the night! Had that song on my player, turned out the lights....played it for the kids! All had a great laugh over it! 20 years later, they still talk and laugh about it!

Aaahh...the memories we make camping!
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Old 01-29-2016, 11:59 AM   #16
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Well you could pull it up to Cloudcroft and see how you like the ride back down!
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Old 01-29-2016, 10:14 PM   #17
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We have travelled extensively in our pop up before upgrading. Never had a worry about critters bothering us.....until one dark and moonless night...camping on national land near Sunset Crater, Flagstaff, AZ. We were awakened by howling coyotes really close....and heard something very large snuffling right at our door......opened it with the wife and 3 kids all huddled around....could not see a thing. Got out the floodlight, only to find a bull with huge horns and his herd from the song Ghost Riders In the Sky staring me down just a foot away! His red eyes flared and snorting as they all stampeded off! Scared the crap out of us all from the suddenness of it! Do not think we slept the rest of the night! Had that song on my player, turned out the lights....played it for the kids! All had a great laugh over it! 20 years later, they still talk and laugh about it!

Aaahh...the memories we make camping!
That sounds like the same thing that happened to my family when I was about seven on a couple of trips, but it was not a bull, it was BEARS sniffing the tent. Once on the Organ coast,1952 and Once in Yellow Stone park in 1957. That is why I have a hard side rig, makes me feel safer.
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Old 01-29-2016, 10:41 PM   #18
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Okay, the wife and I decided we are going to Canada next year anestimated that with travel and side trips it will be 8,500 to 9,000 miles. Instead of pulling our big TT (a LaCrosse) with my diesel pick-up truck, we thought it might be cheaper to get a tent trailer that we could pull behind our Ford Escape. We found a good deal on a Flagstaff LTD in Texas and pulled it back to NM with my pick-up. We got around 15 mpg and were well pleased since we get 9-10 when pulling the LaCrosse.

Fully loaded the Flagstaff weighs 1,700 lbs and the Escape is rated to pull 2,500 lbs. The Flagstaff has a seven prong electrical hook-up and the Escape was wired for a 4 prong. So we got the adapter and then found out that the Flagstaff doesn't have brakes. So our friendly local RV repair-person said he could get us a bid for installing brakes on the Flagstaff. But I don't know if it is worth it.

We haven't had the Flagstaff connected to the Escape yet so I don't have any real life on the road experience with it yeat. What is your opinion? Towing across Texas where it is flat is one thing, but what happens when one gets to the mountains?
If the Escape is only wired with a 4 prong plug, you probably will need to install a brake controller on the Escape, Trans Cooler etc.......

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If the Escape is only wired with a 4 prong plug, you probably will need to install a brake controller on the Escape, Trans Cooler etc.......

I touched on that back in post #4: To add brakes or not?

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A newish Escape? The one with the hi-tech, split transmission and dual clutches that is actually a manual transmission masquerading as an automatic?

On an 8500 - 9000 mile trip?

Take the big boys
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