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Old 12-25-2011, 01:48 PM   #51
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For ease of towing, Duramax/Allison is what I went with. Cost was not a consideration - I didn't care that it cost more, nor that the service cost more, or that fuel cost more.

For many folks, all that extra cost is not worth it though.
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Old 12-25-2011, 08:58 PM   #52
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I have a Toyota Tundra 5.7 liter with 6 speed auto trans. Pulled an old Holiday Rambler 25' (actual loaded weight 6750 lbs) with 750 lbs hitch weight 27,000 miles last year from NH to FL to Alaska to San Diego, and back to Florida and NH. Averaged 11 mpg for the entire trip. The Tundra has 390 hp and 400 ft-lbs of torque, and wants to run up the mountains. At 11,000 ft in CO, was passing all 18 wheelers going up the mountain, and most fifth wheels. No problems for the entire trip.
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Old 12-26-2011, 08:58 AM   #53
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I have a Toyota Tundra 5.7 liter with 6 speed auto trans. Pulled an old Holiday Rambler 25' (actual loaded weight 6750 lbs) with 750 lbs hitch weight 27,000 miles last year from NH to FL to Alaska to San Diego, and back to Florida and NH. Averaged 11 mpg for the entire trip. The Tundra has 390 hp and 400 ft-lbs of torque, and wants to run up the mountains. At 11,000 ft in CO, was passing all 18 wheelers going up the mountain, and most fifth wheels. No problems for the entire trip.
It's not whether you can pull it or not. The difference is the ease of pulling it. Believe me , it is a much more comfy and relaxing ride with a diesel. Where it come in is the hills you are talking about, with 6,750 # or 8,000# for that matter my truck will not gear down and hold speed on cruise control.

You feel good about 11 mpg. I am pulling 18,000# and get 11 MPG.
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Old 12-26-2011, 09:10 AM   #54
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The difference between pulling and pulling well

I agree that there is a big difference in pulling and pulling well. In your case, where you have a larger load, a deisel will perform better, along with a heavier suspension. For a trailer less than 8k lbs, the Tundra pulls very well, and as I stated wants to run up the hills, not struggle with them. 11 mpg with a gas engine pulling that load is more than acceptable.
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Old 12-26-2011, 11:27 AM   #55
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gas all the way , cheaper to work on and pull just fine , diesel are expensive to maintain if you really don't need it like doing alot of traveling
I've never noticed a big difference in maintenance price. My duramax takes more oil but thats it. Have almost 70k in 5yrs and have not spent much on maintenance.
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Old 12-26-2011, 11:29 AM   #56
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For ease of towing, Duramax/Allison is what I went with. Cost was not a consideration - I didn't care that it cost more, nor that the service cost more, or that fuel cost more.

For many folks, all that extra cost is not worth it though.

Its hard explaining to people the extra 7-10k for the dmax/allison combo LOL. I just say well it kicks ***** and its what I want!!!
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I have a Toyota Tundra 5.7 liter with 6 speed auto trans. Pulled an old Holiday Rambler 25' (actual loaded weight 6750 lbs) with 750 lbs hitch weight 27,000 miles last year from NH to FL to Alaska to San Diego, and back to Florida and NH. Averaged 11 mpg for the entire trip. The Tundra has 390 hp and 400 ft-lbs of torque, and wants to run up the mountains. At 11,000 ft in CO, was passing all 18 wheelers going up the mountain, and most fifth wheels. No problems for the entire trip.
You say you passed most fifth wheels well most of them are well over 10000 lbs and still if they are Diesels they are all getting between 11-14 MPG still way better than your Toyota if it had to pull the same weight.
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Old 12-26-2011, 04:39 PM   #58
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Old truck was a 04' 1500 dodge with a hemi. Thought it was the best towing truck in the world after I installed the 4.56 gears. Buddy at a local dealer made me an offer I couldn't refuse on my current truck. A very clean and unmolested 4.5 year old cummins 4x4 with 70k on the odo for $19k before trade in equity. I hooked up to my 8k keystone travel trailer for the first time and was in disbelief. Didn't think it in a million years it would be so different. I will never own a new diesel truck... too much money, not worth it to me. But I will never buy another gas truck as long as I still pull an RV. There are plenty affordable used diesel trucks out there. I've said it before and I'll say it again. I do all my own maintenance and and it hasn't costed me a penny more to maintain this truck as it has any other. In fact, I believe I spent more on the old truck just to make it tow half decent.
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It's not whether you can pull it or not. The difference is the ease of pulling it. Believe me , it is a much more comfy and relaxing ride with a diesel. Where it come in is the hills you are talking about, with 6,750 # or 8,000# for that matter my truck will not gear down and hold speed on cruise control.

You feel good about 11 mpg. I am pulling 18,000# and get 11 MPG.
What's relaxing about driving in a truck where you can't hear anything other than the clatter of a diesel. Admittedly the newer ones are somewhat less noisy but after refuelling the stink of diesel fuel seems to linger for days when you spill a drop on your hands or clothing.
More than happy with our gasser and it does not need an aux heater to warm you up on those cold days
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Your right. The older ones can be noisey. Mine is fairly loud outside and a little noisy inside when pulling hard. The new Ford 6.7 sounds like a gas engine and dmax is pretty quiet too. Not sure what heater your referring to. Only heaters I know of is the block heater and glow plugs or intake grid heater(cummins) and that's to help it start when cold. I've never used my block heater. Coldest I've started mine was -5 and it fired right up with the remote start. Got us on stinky fuel. I just wear gloves. Biggest problem with that is the slob that fuels before you. Since diesel won't evaporate quickly like gas it tends to coat the nozzle handle.
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