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Old 05-08-2016, 08:26 PM   #131
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i'm pretty sure towing with the cruise on is not recommended ...causes alot of unnecessary shifts in the transmition
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Old 05-08-2016, 08:37 PM   #132
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Wrong its going from 420ft lbs to 450!
I stand corrected, I knew it didn't seem correct when I wrote it but I didn't check it.
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Old 05-08-2016, 08:43 PM   #133
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i'm pretty sure towing with the cruise on is not recommended ...causes alot of unnecessary shifts in the transmition
Actually, if you lock out 6th, there are very rare occasions that it would shift. 5th gear handles my 7k pounds without shifts on anything up to 5%.

Still, I get your point.
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Old 05-08-2016, 10:37 PM   #134
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i'm pretty sure towing with the cruise on is not recommended ...causes alot of unnecessary shifts in the transmition
I've searched for Ford recommendations regarding cruise control & towing.
  1. Ford does recommend turning off the speed control in hilly terrain. The reason stated is that speed control may turn off automatically if it's not able to maintain the set speed.
  2. Ford also recommends turning off ADAPTIVE cruise control when towing, because that version of cruise control activates the brakes on its own and isn't set up to do so with a trailer.
  3. Several non-Ford sites recommend turning off cruise control to save on fuel. Many forum posts say that slowing on uphills and regaining the speed on downhills will save fuel.
YMMV, I guess.
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Old 05-08-2016, 10:43 PM   #135
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i'm pretty sure towing with the cruise on is not recommended ...causes alot of unnecessary shifts in the transmition
Push the tow/haul button in and that won't happen.
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Old 05-08-2016, 11:02 PM   #136
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Great post Binnova. I don't understand the apps and such for having a boost gauge. Can you explain the easiest way to have a boost gauge?
I have a vent mount for my phone so it's in the same line of sight as the instrument cluster. My phone connects via bluetooth to the OBD2 reader.

I bought this from Amazon:
Fineed Super Mini ELM327 V1.5 Bluetooth OBD OBD2 OBDII Scan Tool
It plugs into the port under the dash.

I bought this phone app from the Google Play Store:
Torque Pro, $4.95 (Requires Android)

Torque pro is VERY customizable. There are hundreds of gauges you can have on the phone display - 0-60 time, battery voltage, fuel trim, horsepower at the wheels, exhaust gas temp, ... basically anything the truck's computer is tracking.

I set up my phone display to show gauges for Boost/Vacuum, absolute engine load, GPS elevation and Barometric pressure.
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Old 05-10-2016, 07:23 PM   #137
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My 2016 has a boost gauge as an option in the instrument cluster
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Old 05-10-2016, 07:48 PM   #138
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2014 f 150 xl, 8 ft bed 373 gears 3.5 engine. max trow max haul. been up and down all kinds of mountains. good set up.
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Old 05-13-2016, 09:42 AM   #139
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What research was that ? Not consumer Reports I hope. There is no way the EB can match the Ram 1500 eco-diesel towing milage. My son in law pulls a 27 ft camper with his eco-diesel and still gets 20 mpg. When not towing he is in the 28 to 30 mpg range and it has plenty of torque. For the amount of money that you would pay for the F150 EB you can get the 1500 Ram Eco-diesel. I would take the Ram anyday better looking truck and a better ride and interior.
This sounds just like a Ram commercial:
-"Best towing" (while they are showing a 3500 diesel dually)
-"Best fuel economy" (while they are showing a 1500 Eco-diesel)
What a joke!!!
People want to know what a SINGLE TRUCK can do, without having to choose between strengths. Sure, the 1500 EcoDiesel beats the EB for fuel economy, but it carries a much lower MAX tow rating (and probably MAX payload, but I'm not sure there). And sure, a 2500 or 3500 Ram will tow more than an EB, but that's a different class.

The point of the EB is that it will tow as much or more than any other 1/2-ton. And no other 1/2-ton will get as good fuel economy without significantly reducing it's towing ability.
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Old 05-13-2016, 09:50 AM   #140
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My 2011 EB has 3:73 trans. I have 75000 kilometers on the truck and have towed my 8200 lbs FW about 5000 kilometers with no problem. I'm very impressed with the performance while towing in the white mountains of Vermont. As for gas millage, who cares, if I want to save on gas I'll stay home.
Gas mileage discussions should be saved for what you get when NOT towing. That's why if you only tow occasionally, but need big towing ability, the 1/2-ton EB is a good fit. You can handle a load that the EcoDiesel may not be able to handle, but when you aren't towing, you'll get better mileage than a gas V8.
But if you tow a higher percentage, you lose the EB advantage, and might as well go to a 3/4 or 1-ton diesel.
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