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Old 03-03-2016, 01:26 AM   #81
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I owned a 2015 F-150 3.5L EB with MaxTow and can say it pulled my 5500lb trailer with extreme ease. I then upgraded to the Stealth 35' and I'm at a minimum 10k, with prob 1400lb hitch weight. I pulled it once with the F-150 and while I felt the truck had the power to pull it, I was way overloaded with my family in the truck, some light gear in the bed, etc. then I wasn't sure that just because I could pull it, didnt mean I could stop it (Going down a huge incline). I opted for the F-250 diesel.

At 7xxx lbs you probably are good to go though on the new F-150. I'd do Max Tow IMHO as the mirrors may look funny initially, but they sure are nice. Larger oil cooler I believe by a few pipes n such too.
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Old 03-03-2016, 09:28 AM   #82
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Have a F150 with Ecoboost. Tow a Windjammer 3029 weighing in the 8300 lb range approx. 6,000 miles without any issues. Towed over a 9700 ft pass heading into Grand Teton last September and through the Smokies from Knoxville to Ashville. Slow and steady she went.
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Old 03-03-2016, 09:53 AM   #83
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Ya like they are going to bad mouth their ride. Duh.
I see no shortage of people on the forums complaining when something doesn't work as it should….
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Old 03-03-2016, 11:07 AM   #84
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Agreed. People would be far more likely to jump in here if they had horrible experiences with their ecoboost.

It is also silly to say the positive reports are from people with 20k miles. I have FAR more than that with a lot of towing. These have been out there for what, 5 years now? Obviously there are problem units. I think you would be hard pressed to find a better value to performance ratio when it comes to towing as long as you are under payload limits.
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Old 03-03-2016, 11:19 AM   #85
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Agreed. People would be far more likely to jump in here if they had horrible experiences with their ecoboost.

It is also silly to say the positive reports are from people with 20k miles. I have FAR more than that with a lot of towing. These have been out there for what, 5 years now? Obviously there are problem units. I think you would be hard pressed to find a better value to performance ratio when it comes to towing as long as you are under payload limits.
I agree. My Mom's 2011 has over 100K now. It had to have a reflash done early on for the hard downshift issue. No other mechanical problems. My 2013 was flawless for the 30K I had it.
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Old 03-03-2016, 11:21 AM   #86
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Ecoboost Experience

Hey folks, I am new to the forum but have had some good experience on this topic. So, I have owned two F150 screws with max trailer tow and 3.5 ecoboost. The first was a 2011, followed by a 2013. Both had max trailer tow, and only difference was bed length. The frustration I had and never was able to overcome was the relatively poor fuel economy when compared to the posted window sticker numbers. Never in 6 years of owning these two trucks did they ever meet or exceed the posted numbers, and I was constantly told by the dealer that this is just the way these trucks are. Poor answer in my opinion. I pulled a 6,500lb boat most summers, and nothing in the winter besides normal commute to work. There was multiple times with longer road trips ranging up to 1500 miles round trip. Last November on a 1500 mile round trip, all highway miles trip, the truck never got better than 15.5 mpg, and the only weight in the truck was myself and my two pre-teen boys. Nearly nothing. This was normal mileage for this truck, which is very poor. I was fed up with the mileage I was getting, and since Ford refused to get off the ecoboost is best and only attitude, I switched over to a 2016 Ram Ecodiesel. The Ram is the same config as the F150's were, crew cab with 6.5 bed. It has a 3.92 rear end, so is lower than the F150's were. I am averaging combined city highway driving on a brand new not broken in motor, 24.6 mpg. This is the kind of fuel economy I expected from the Ford, but never got it. Hands down, the Ram, so far, is a much nicer truck, and has far superior and better than posted mpg numbers. I have not had a chance to tow with it yet, but expect it to be better than the Ecoboost ever was. Yes, I understand that the Ram is not the rocket ship off the line, but if you are buying a truck to drag race, you are buying the wrong vehicle. The Ram has the same amount of torque as the Ford, 420lb/f, and it pulls like a freight train, and does it at low RPM's. The Ram is and will remain the undisputed MPG leader, until Fors decides to release the F150 with a diesel, which anybody that watches the Internet and forums will know is on the roads as a test mule. Time will tell if it ever gets released. Even with the aluminum body and the new 10 speed tranny for 2017 certain models, Ford will still not be able to match the fuel economy of the Ram. It will take a diesel to do that. Let me be clear here, I have been a LIFE long Ford truck owner, and have owned 6 Ford trucks in the last 10 years, ranging from a half ton V8 to a 3/4 ton V10 and 3/4 ton 6.0 Powerstroke. This is my first Ram, and thus far I am extremely impressed with the overall quality and the fuel economy. Sorry for the long winded post, but needed to tell the entire history.
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Hey folks, I am new to the forum but have had some good experience on this topic. So, I have owned two F150 screws with max trailer tow and 3.5 ecoboost. The first was a 2011, followed by a 2013. Both had max trailer tow, and only difference was bed length. The frustration I had and never was able to overcome was the relatively poor fuel economy when compared to the posted window sticker numbers. Never in 6 years of owning these two trucks did they ever meet or exceed the posted numbers, and I was constantly told by the dealer that this is just the way these trucks are. Poor answer in my opinion. I pulled a 6,500lb boat most summers, and nothing in the winter besides normal commute to work. There was multiple times with longer road trips ranging up to 1500 miles round trip. Last November on a 1500 mile round trip, all highway miles trip, the truck never got better than 15.5 mpg, and the only weight in the truck was myself and my two pre-teen boys. Nearly nothing. This was normal mileage for this truck, which is very poor. I was fed up with the mileage I was getting, and since Ford refused to get off the ecoboost is best and only attitude, I switched over to a 2016 Ram Ecodiesel. The Ram is the same config as the F150's were, crew cab with 6.5 bed. It has a 3.92 rear end, so is lower than the F150's were. I am averaging combined city highway driving on a brand new not broken in motor, 24.6 mpg. This is the kind of fuel economy I expected from the Ford, but never got it. Hands down, the Ram, so far, is a much nicer truck, and has far superior and better than posted mpg numbers. I have not had a chance to tow with it yet, but expect it to be better than the Ecoboost ever was. Yes, I understand that the Ram is not the rocket ship off the line, but if you are buying a truck to drag race, you are buying the wrong vehicle. The Ram has the same amount of torque as the Ford, 420lb/f, and it pulls like a freight train, and does it at low RPM's. The Ram is and will remain the undisputed MPG leader, until Fors decides to release the F150 with a diesel, which anybody that watches the Internet and forums will know is on the roads as a test mule. Time will tell if it ever gets released. Even with the aluminum body and the new 10 speed tranny for 2017 certain models, Ford will still not be able to match the fuel economy of the Ram. It will take a diesel to do that. Let me be clear here, I have been a LIFE long Ford truck owner, and have owned 6 Ford trucks in the last 10 years, ranging from a half ton V8 to a 3/4 ton V10 and 3/4 ton 6.0 Powerstroke. This is my first Ram, and thus far I am extremely impressed with the overall quality and the fuel economy. Sorry for the long winded post, but needed to tell the entire history.
If you got 15.5 on an all highway trip, you were either running 90, had oversized mud grip tires, 30+ MPH head wind or had a problem. That is not typical performance for a stock EB in normal conditions. Keep in mind that diesel has approximately 30% more energy (BTU) per gallon compared to gas, so you'll always get better fuel mileage when using diesel compared to gas. It is a more complex engine and has a lot of expensive to repair emissions components. Plus diesel tends to be more expensive. I drive a diesel now, but I'm realistic that it's not all pluses. I have to ask why you expected 24.6 combined MPG from a Ford that was rated at probably 18 or 19 combined?????
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Old 03-03-2016, 11:43 AM   #88
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LOVE, LOVE my ecobeast. It is my daily driver and my hauler. Over 20,000 towing miles with my 5'r and still runs like the day I bought it. Approaching 4 years old and not one single problem. 100% stock with no mods or changes at all.

Am I pleased, um ya I am.
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dustman_stx, so I didn't post this to have people argue my facts. To answer your questions, no the trucks were not lifted and were 100% stock, and I drove them for nearly 6 years, so I think I have enough road time to report. Regarding the speed limits, no I was not doing 90, and I was doing the speed limit. The interstate speed limits in my area of the country are 80MPH, and for anybody to say that you must drive below the posted speed limit to achieve good fuel economy in an ecoboost is just plain absurd. As an engineer, I am very well aware of the efficiency of diesel over gas. On a recent 800 mile round trip highway mile run in the Ram, same interstates as I ran the Ford, with a heavy head wind and many hills let alone the new engine not being broke in yet, I was still able to yield 24.3 MPG. I expected the high fuel economy in the Ford simply because people on multiple forums were reporting high numbers, but as we all know people can tend to stretch the truth on various sites. The reason I kept driving the ecoboost is because there wasn't anything better out there. Now there is, and Ford is realizing this, hence the test mule diesels on the road. I gave the Ecodiesel three model years to work the bugs out that all new power trains have, and am happy with the results. Believe me, if Ford decides to actually releas the diesel, it will be near impossible to not go back to them.
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Old 03-03-2016, 12:32 PM   #90
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Lots of great info I am also considering the EB
Thanks for all the comments
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