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Old 08-29-2016, 08:36 PM   #21
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I have never heard anyone complian about having too much truck. I have heard night mare stories when folks had too much trailer. If I was looking for a truck to pull any 5th wheel, regardless of weight, I would only be looking at one ton, long bed duallies.

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Old 08-29-2016, 08:48 PM   #22
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Originally Posted by Signguy71 View Post
For a little extra you can buy a one ton instead of three quarter ton. If you don't, in a few short years you will be asking if the three quarter can pull it.

Ask me how I know that.
Been there done that, bought the t-shirt. Now on second trailer (tt then fiver), third tow vehicle (sub, f250, chevy 3500) in 4 years.

Pay attention to the payload in any truck you purchase. I have seen Ford eco boost with over 2000 lb payload, my f250 diesel had a 1500 lb payload, some 3/4 tons have upwards of 2500 lb or more payload. my chevy 3500 has a 4000 lb payload on the door sticker.

On average people tend to add around 1500 lbs of stuff to a trailer. Add that to a trailer dry weight and then figure around 20% for average pin weight. Now take a truck door sticker payload and subtract the weight of all people, pets and stuff you plan to have in the truck when towing. Then subtract another 150 lbs for the hitch receiver weight. Is this new payload number more of less than your loaded pin weight calculation? We lost 800 lbs payload to famIly, dog, hitch and junk in the truck.

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Old 08-29-2016, 09:34 PM   #23
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My Silverado 2500 gasser's tow capacity is 13,000 lbs and payload is 2906 lbs, FYI.
That is pretty good payload even for a gasser. Had an F250 diesel and the payload was only 2300 but the tow rating was 15,000. My 2016 F350 diesel payload is just shy of 3500. That will be enough no matter if I upsize 5ers in the future.
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Old 08-29-2016, 10:01 PM   #24
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I was in your exact position last year. We didn't have a tow vehicle when we purchased a used 32' 5th wheel in outstanding condition. THEN, I started looking for a truck. Half-ton was out of the question and never even considered. 250/2500 was considered until I found out that a one-ton truck was only a few hundred dollars more than a similar equipped 250/2500. After careful consideration I ended up with a 2015 RAM Cummins 3500, 4x4, long bed. It tows like a dream and I get an average of 13.5MPG towing. Four wheel drive MAY seem like an extravagance however, I have needed it on several occasions. Backing into a campsite with wet grass or mud. I could have never gotten parked without the 4x4. The diesel is an expensive upgrade but, well worth the price. I get much better milage than with gas and I can tow up 10% grades going 60mph without straining. The ONLY negative I can think of is that the truck is difficult to park in in a parking lot as it is LONG.

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Old 08-30-2016, 03:13 AM   #25
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Towing capacity.

Had a 2014 Tundra, Dual Cab, 8' bed, big v8 that had a 26 GAL gas tank!!!!!. Towing a FR Windjammer 3025. Nine (9) MILES PER GAL AT BEST. Was gassing up way to often. Traded inTundra in for a 2015 Silverodo 2500, Duramax diesel, 36 Gal gas tank!!!!! getting 12-13 MPG
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Old 08-30-2016, 10:22 AM   #26
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Pulling a double axle utility trailer with 16000 #s and 1600# tongue weight is a whole lot different than a 16000# rv with a massive amount of surface area. The industry ratings are not a good indicator of what you can safely tow. Listen to people that have already made all the mistakes. Get the biggest truck you can afford. You will never be sorry.
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Old 08-30-2016, 11:02 AM   #27
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I'm in the market to buy a 1 ton diesel in the next year or 2. I have a Toyota sequoia that can tow 10k and I only tow 8,200ish. Can I tow it now? Heck yes I can. Plenty of power and no problems. Poor gas mileage? Yes. 6.5 is sad panda range.

I'm looking at a new (at the time of purchase, a 2017 or 2018) Chevy 3500 or GMC 3500 diesel. Why? Cuz they only cost 1k or 2k more than the 3/4 tons and have a higher payload and tow rating. My coworkers ask me why so I need so much truck? I say to them, why not have so much truck?

Ps, my Sequoia is rated at 10k. I wanted a windjammer but I bought my current trailer because of weight. The windjammer tounge weight was too much and weight ws too close for comfort.
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Old 08-30-2016, 11:47 AM   #28
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Wow you tow 8,200 with a Sequoia.
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Old 08-30-2016, 12:56 PM   #29
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I think the reliability and towing ability of the Japanese trucklettes are overrated.

Towing with a 1/2-ton (or less) at max capacity (but still within "sticker") is a much different experience than towing with a 3/4-ton (or more) at max capacity.

Aside from having bigger "stuff", the 3/4-tons (and above) weigh significantly more than the 1/2-tons. The greater truck to trailer weight ratio, the more stability and control you have (all else being equal).

I also believe the 1/2-ton ratings are pushing the envelope much more so than the bigger truck ratings.

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I wasn't saying wow like I was impressed it was like the highest rated '16 Sequoia has tow rating of 7400. The doesn't take in consideration of payload and GCWR.

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