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Old 02-08-2015, 09:49 PM   #1
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Went looking to upgrade my 14 year old low mileage truck. Was looking at 2014 Ram 1500 with the 5.7, but I am concerned about payload. 1440 lbs. Passengers with pups are at 550 lbs, tongue weight, firewood, a generator, a cooler or two, plus various tools etc.

I saw a 2014 Ram 2500 with a 6.4 for about 3k more. It bumps the payload to 3250 and towing to 12580 with the 3.73 ratio.

With my microlite, I am 4500 lbs and a low tongue weight. I am not really looking to upgrade in the next few years, so do I really need to 2500 or
Do I just want a big boy toy?


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Old 02-08-2015, 10:28 PM   #2
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For the last 30 or so years I never saw a need for a 1/2 ton. All I have had is 3/4 and 1 to s. check with insurance and do your homework on mpg. I love the 6.4 but a gas miser it is not.

After initial purchase up keep cost should be very similar. I am pulling a Silverback 29RE at I estimate close to 14k with 3:73s and airbags with zero issues. It should pull your micro like its not even there.

One thing to note it truck height. It's probable a good 3 inches higher in and out of the bed than earlier trucks. Loading could be an issue on some items.

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Old 02-08-2015, 10:35 PM   #3
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I have a 13 Ram 1500 with the 5.7 and it is the best vehicle I've ever owned. Our trailer has a dry weight of about 6800lbs and I've had no issues getting over mountains or stopping. We load the bed of the truck with firewood, a grill, and other odds and ends with no issues with payload.
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Old 02-08-2015, 11:19 PM   #4
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Just make sure you buy enough truck for the trailer you're going to have and not just the one you have now.
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Old 02-08-2015, 11:37 PM   #5
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There may be no such thing as too much truck, kind of like a girl too pretty and having too much money.
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Old 02-08-2015, 11:41 PM   #6
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There may be no such thing as too much truck, kind of like a girl too pretty and having too much money.

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Old 02-09-2015, 01:57 AM   #7
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I have a 13 ram 1500 5.7/6 speed with 3:55 gears and the thing tows like a beast BUT the payload on the ram is low because of rear coil springs instead of the old leaf springs.My TT is around 5,000 lbs base weight with a hitch weight of 620 lbs and once you load it up and load up the bed you get a lot of squat out of the rear.This has been discussed many many times on the Ram forums and the fix which was cheap and easy was to put air bags in the rear springs and they do the trick.Here is 2 pics of my set up first is without bags,second is with the bag.You will see a big difference.
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I have a 13 ram 1500 5.7/6 speed with 3:55 gears and the thing tows like a beast BUT the payload on the ram is low because of rear coil springs instead of the old leaf springs.
Just fyi. The newer 2500 rams also have the coil spring setup.

http://www.dieselpowermag.com/news/1...ar_suspension/
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There may be no such thing as too much truck, kind of like a girl too pretty and having too much money.
That's funny I have to admit...
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Went looking to upgrade my 14 year old low mileage truck. Was looking at 2014 Ram 1500 with the 5.7, but I am concerned about payload. 1440 lbs. Passengers with pups are at 550 lbs, tongue weight, firewood, a generator, a cooler or two, plus various tools etc.

I saw a 2014 Ram 2500 with a 6.4 for about 3k more. It bumps the payload to 3250 and towing to 12580 with the 3.73 ratio.

With my microlite, I am 4500 lbs and a low tongue weight. I am not really looking to upgrade in the next few years, so do I really need to 2500 or
Do I just want a big boy toy?


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You're pulling a MicroLite!!!! The 1500 will do just fine. Worst case scenario, you add bags like someone else stated. Expect to lose ~ 5 or 6mpg combined (non-towing) going with the 6.4 in a 3/4 ton. Compare gear ratios with the 5.7 and make sure you are getting "towing gears" and not "highway gears." With the newer 6 and 8 speed trannys, gear ratio isn't AS critical as the old 3 and 4 speed days, but it does still help to have a numerically higher gear ratio with naturally aspirated engines that need higher RPM to produce power.
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