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09-01-2014, 12:47 PM
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Totally new. Be kind
Ok, I have made the decision. I retire in six years and want to full time. I plan on working in Yellowstone and hitting the road when the park closes. I have no idea where to start, so I went and looked at som 5ers. When I looked at the Cedar Creek silver back 29re. I found what I needed. That being said I need to pull it. The specs state it has a 1600 lb pin weight. I know I want a diesel but what about pay load. How much extra pay load do I need? The specs state 13500 loaded with the 1600 pin.( rounded off) will a truck rated at 2200 pay load with a tow rating of 1700 be enough? Or do I need something like 2600 payload? Thanks.
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09-01-2014, 05:07 PM
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I would think that any 3/4T diesel truck would suit your needs...payload should be 2200 to 2700 lb depending on cab configuration and trim level. Another choice would be a 1T diesel SRW with more payload and some room should you want a bigger, heavier camper down the road.
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09-01-2014, 05:24 PM
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As Dave said, the payload rating might be anywhere between 2200# - 2700#, but you have to account for the weight of the driver, passenger, fuel, tools, weight of the 5th wheel hitch, etc. and the advertised pinweight is for the unloaded trailer before options.
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09-01-2014, 06:35 PM
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Max weight of this 5er loaded is 13500.
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09-01-2014, 07:22 PM
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If this will be a full time place to live then you may want to go bigger down the road so is leave room for growth. If you don't want a DRW then go for a 1 ton SRW. You could go 3/4 but I'd put in some airbags with on board air.
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09-01-2014, 07:26 PM
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Ha ha ha, DRW SrW??? I'm new have no idea what that means. Is there a glossary to look at?
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09-01-2014, 07:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ltdan66
Ha ha ha, DRW SrW??? I'm new have no idea what that means. Is there a glossary to look at?
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Drw = dual rear wheel
Srw= single rear wheel
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09-01-2014, 07:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ltdan66
Ha ha ha, DRW SrW??? I'm new have no idea what that means. Is there a glossary to look at?
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Sorry Dan. Answered above.
For going heavier down the road a 1 ton will allow you to stay within the weights, ect
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09-01-2014, 07:36 PM
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Thanks, there is a reason I'm looking into this so far a head. I am clueless. But can't wait to start the life. Not wishing life away, but looking at the future.
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09-01-2014, 07:44 PM
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That's smart. Gives you plenty of time to plan and save. I'll toss in my 2 cents regarding a TV... you can never really have too big
The more power and payload capacity the better. Your TV won't have to work as hard and you'll have power to spare if you need it. Not to mention it will leave you with room to grow. Just sayin....
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09-01-2014, 08:17 PM
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I tow alot, I would recommend a 1 ton.......especially since most 3/4 ton and 1 tons have the same engines...1 tons - more tow and better stop ratings.....depending on dealerships, the prices usually aren't that far apart between the two either.
like some of others said, leaves room for growth....plus you can hook on to just about anything you are going to want to...
I have always liked a dually for towing heavy, spread weight so to speak between four tires in rear....to me the ride with heavy load on dually seems to handle better.....everyone has their own take on that....
For me a must is long bed, drawback there is - pushing total length of tow and trailer...right now I set at 60 feet(truck is 20 feet/Silverback 39'11"). Even with our 5 I can jack the camper around to get in and out spots.....plus with long bed adding an extra fuel tank doesnt interfer with trailer, I have a 46 gallon below cover tank.
whether you get a 3/4 or 1 ton I would recommend a set of airbags with an onboard compressor....you can use the compressor for anything and it will maintain your airbags at a set pressure...even though a 1 ton usually doesnt need it, it still improves ride....
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09-02-2014, 10:42 AM
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For occasional towing like most, many (like me) will let ourselves push closer to the limits, since 95% or more of driving is when NOT towing.
For full-timing, or lots of seasonal travel, it probably worth giving yourself more cushion.
I hear most people saying that difference between a 3/4-ton and 1-ton is minor, compared to the breathing room you get in payload. I can't imagine the ride quality (while not towing) is much different between the 2 either.
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09-02-2014, 10:48 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thebrakeman
For occasional towing like most, many (like me) will let ourselves push closer to the limits, since 95% or more of driving is when NOT towing.
For full-timing, or lots of seasonal travel, it probably worth giving yourself more cushion.
I hear most people saying that difference between a 3/4-ton and 1-ton is minor, compared to the breathing room you get in payload. I can't imagine the ride quality (while not towing) is much different between the 2 either.
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I've had both and with the newer trucks, the difference is minimal.
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