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Old 11-05-2011, 11:05 PM   #11
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Old 11-06-2011, 12:02 AM   #12
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In 1976 my parents ordered a Olds Cutlass Supreme station wagon with a 455, put air adjustable shocks on and used a weight distribution hitch (no sway bars then) to pull a 28' stick and tin tank of a camper from WI to OR and the long way home with no problems. Now my 1/2 ton isn't "heavy enough" to pull a lighter camper. Hmmmmmmm?
You can thank all the CARB regulations and the never-ending EPA mandates for more fuel efficient (and therefore lighter) vehicles. More government intervention in our lives, folks, and it's only going to get worse.
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Old 11-06-2011, 12:34 AM   #13
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In 1976 my parents ordered a Olds Cutlass Supreme station wagon with a 455, put air adjustable shocks on and used a weight distribution hitch (no sway bars then) to pull a 28' stick and tin tank of a camper from WI to OR and the long way home with no problems. Now my 1/2 ton isn't "heavy enough" to pull a lighter camper. Hmmmmmmm?
Higher torque from a 455 made it possible getting about 7 miles to the gallon. I wouldn't tow anything but a small boat with a little half ton p/u. Nothing beats the stability of a dually.
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Old 11-06-2011, 06:36 AM   #14
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When looking at what a "loaded " F 150 ecoboost crew cab will cost.... .3.5 engine , max tow pkg, Max payload pkg (8ft box) in a XLT or Lariat model..4x4 ?? or not... at least a 3.73 rear axel.. you may well be in the price range of a F 250.. that should have 12,000 lbs of towing capability and 3,000 lbs of payload capacity
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Old 11-06-2011, 08:28 AM   #15
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I don't think you're going to get the support you're looking for in your decision to be pulling a 34'10" camper with a 116" wheelbase Denali. The dry weight of this camper is probably understated at 7098 lbs...the real dry weight is probably closer to 7500 lbs. It shows a carrying capacity of 2500 lbs so it's GVWR must be in the range of 9500 to 10,000 lbs.

I don't know if this was a case of listening too much to the salesman, but clearly that is too much camper for your Denali.
What Dave said !!

I have tried to stay away from being the length and weight police recently, but that combo has brought me back into the mix.

IMHO, a 116" vehicle should not be pulling a 35' conventional travel trailer. A 23 footer with the proper setup....yes, but not something way over 30.

And I would forget about a 1/2 ton truck to replace the SUV. With a listed tongue weight of 953 lbs., that figure is going to be in the neighborhood of 1200 lbs. camping ready. That tongue weight is going to exceed many 1/2 ton hitch ratings, as well as maxing out the GVWR of 1/2 ton trucks. Yes, you may be able to stay under the GVWR with the trailer only, but load the family and some gear in the truck and I betcha it will be over the max.

A big engine, low gear ratio (high number), long wheelbased 3/4 ton truck is needed for that trailer.

If you weigh the Denali with the trailer hooked up, camping ready with all passengers in their seats, I believe you find that you are way over the GVWR of your SUV.
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Old 11-06-2011, 08:39 AM   #16
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Yukon XL 130", 143" on silverado hd 2500, obviously makes a huge difference.
I missed the fact that your Denali is an XL at 130" wheelbase rather than 116" and I apologize.

I wouldn't, however, change my opinion in regards to it's suitabilty to tow your camper.

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I missed the fact that your Denali is an XL at 130" wheelbase rather than 116" and I apologize.

I wouldn't, however, change my opinion in regards to it's suitabilty to tow your camper.

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I will stay with my post, also. With a 130" wheelbase SUV, a 26' travel trailer should be about the maximum length. The LaCrosse weight also remains a problem.
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Agreed, we will try it and if needed downgrade our tow vehicle. None of it still makes any sense to me but I am not an engineer. Comments so far are on wheelbase. Yukon XL 130", 143" on silverado hd 2500, obviously makes a huge difference. May have to get a 3.5 l ecoboost before next summer, gives me a reason to go to auto show.

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When you are coming down that mountain if you want a cast iron block engine, heavy duty transmission, heavy duty frame, heavy duty brakes and a full floating rear axle (all designed) to absorb all that stress then get a 3/4 ton pickup. If not get a 1/2 ton. There is more to consider than just tow rating.
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When you are coming down that mountain if you want a cast iron block engine, heavy duty transmission, heavy duty frame, heavy duty brakes and a full floating rear axle (all designed) to absorb all that stress then get a 3/4 ton pickup. If not get a 1/2 ton. There is more to consider than just tow rating.
Very good point.
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Old 11-06-2011, 11:42 AM   #20
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Higher torque from a 455 made it possible getting about 7 miles to the gallon. I wouldn't tow anything but a small boat with a little half ton p/u. Nothing beats the stability of a dually.
Now we need a dually, lmfao! I am definitely limited in experience when it comes to towing a TT, however at 41 years old I have been towing boats and four wheelers since 2mos of my 16th birthday, so have some experience. I think the small boat thing is way over the top, I pull my tandem axle, 5000 lb boat through the ozark mountains at 80mph blowing by that dually.

Thanks for the realistic replies, and the weight issue has confirmed my thoughts. I will weigh the whole setup on my way to Tennessee and if we are borderline and tv struggles I will look at getting a 2500 suburban or truck b4 next summer. (probably not a dually though, the wife may struggle getting that into the parking garage at work.)
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