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Old 01-18-2013, 10:18 AM   #1
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Tow question - 2012 F150 Ecoboost - looking to tow Roo 233s

I'm looking to purchase a 2013 Roo 233s, but I have some concerns as I feel the weight/cargo capacity of the truck will be close. I don't like close, I like safe. Perhaps you can assist.....

2012 F150 Lariat Ecoboost 2x4, 3.55 Rear End - Regular Tow Package. The truck has the 145" wb rated for pulling 9800 lbs with a GCWR of 15,300.

Stickers on the driver door indicate:
GVWR 7100 lb
Front GAWR 3600 lb
Rear GAWR 3850

Tire and Loading Information Sticker states that the combined weight of occupants and cargo should never exceed 1508 lbs.

If I get the 233S, I'll purchase the Equalizer weight distribution hitch/sway control.

My tow package sticker indicates that the hitch can handle 10,500 lb with the weight distribution so I am good there, but again, I think my issue is going to be payload.

The 233S specs:

Base Dry weight - 4372 (we know it will weigh more with options)
Base Dry hitch weight - 585 (again, we know it will weigh more)
Cargo Capacity - 1833 (Will I really try to load 1,833 lbs into the Roo?)

What are your thoughts? Seems to me IF I were to max this Roo out, the weight of the trailer would be 6,205 lbs. Take 12% for tongue weight would get me 744 lbs.

I'd need to add the weight distribution hitch weight to the possible tongue weight, but doesn't the hitch transfer some tongue weight back to the trailer and front axle of the truck?

We have a small family, just three of us - me, wife and 8 year old son...plus a 35# dog. My son's weight will increase over time. Hopefully I'll lose a few pounds .

Again, I want to be safe. What are your thoughts???
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Old 01-18-2013, 10:47 AM   #2
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Old 01-18-2013, 10:49 AM   #3
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You are correct, the GVWR is going to be your big concern, but a little more homework needs to be done.

Seldom is the listed cargo carrying capacity listed correct....yours being 1508 lbs. Speculating if your family and dog weight in at a combo of 500 lbs, adding another 750 lbs. to the load with the trailer tongue, then your total is 1250 lbs. with no camping gear in the bed of the truck yet. Yes, that is still under the listed 1508 lb. payload figure, but that figure might not be correct. And those weights are without any camping gear in the bed of the truck

Best bet is to load up the family, and head to some scales.....the local landfill, quarry, grain elevator, or CAT scales if you have some close. Subtract that weight from the 7100 lb. GVWR, and that will give you what you can add on as a tongue weight...plus maybe a few items in the truck bed.

Yes, a WDH hitch will throw some weight back to the trailer, but don't plan on lossing much over 120 lbs. with that.

I don't think the GCWR for that trailer and your truck will come into play here. Even if you load up the truck to the maximum of 7100 lbs., then you still have 8200 lbs. before you reach the 15, 300 lb GCWR that you have listed.
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Geez, if you can't pull a 233S with an F150 Ecoboost, what does it take? A Super Duty? I can't believe you would have any issues. But, MTNGUY gives you a great methodology if you are concerned and want to be totally sure. Have fun and be safe.
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You would think I could safely pull the 233s way under the limits, but the payload capacity is the main issue. Of course we could possibly look at the 23ss as the tongue weight might end up saving me 150#'s, but we like the idea of 3 beds.
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Old 01-18-2013, 01:18 PM   #7
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You would think I could safely pull the 233s way under the limits, but the payload capacity is the main issue.
Sigh, that is the big downside of a 1/2 ton truck. I only have a 700 lb. tongue weight, but by the time I get in the truck, load up the missus and the dog, some camping gear in the bed, my bikes hung over the bed, and a canoe on the racks, I am right at my GVWR.

The missus doesn't like it when the dog and I have to leave her home because I don't want to be overloaded.

And I am only pulling a 5500 lb. trailer when my truck is rated to tow 9300 lbs.
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How does it tow mtnguy? What is your payload.

I should be fine but I don't want to guess. I'll have to go weigh my truck first and go from there I suppose.
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Old 01-18-2013, 01:30 PM   #9
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My F150 Super Cab, 6.5 bed (145" wheelbase) 4x4 with the 5.4L engine, 3.73 gears tows my Surveyor great.

With the Ecoboost, and the 6 speed transmission(vs. my 4 speed) your F150 should even tow better than my setup.
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My payload number is the same as yours.
Loaded and on the road I am 200 lbs under the GVW on the truck.
I could easily exceed it by carrying more firewood, the generator, a loaded cooler, one more passenger, etc.
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