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Old 08-30-2016, 08:37 PM   #1
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Traded the 2008 Tundra 5.7 TRD/SR5 for a 2015 6.7 F-250 XLT Two months ago. We left Illinois two months ago, now in Sturgis SD. We haven't traveled a lot with it yet so I can't speak from experience but wow, what a difference. Prior to I never got into overdrive, never got to stay in cruise control, but did have tow haul mode while pulling our 5th wheel (9,200 GVRW). And, because of the white knuckling I ever considered the Black Hills. Now I set the cruise control, Tow Haul, engine brake and relax, and yes I mean relax, no white knuckling it anymore. This baby was long over due. I'll still need to add the overload springs to match the F-350 pin weight but it will come.
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Old 08-30-2016, 08:54 PM   #2
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Welcome to the diesel life. Enjoy the new tow ponies!
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Old 08-30-2016, 11:19 PM   #3
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Congrats on the truck. Don't fall for the fallacy about overload springs. While it'll give it higher capacity, it won't be "legal" and you could be held liable in an accident for towing overweight.
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Old 08-31-2016, 08:18 AM   #4
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If it's true you have the same springs as F350 minus the over load spring you won't need them. I have 3180 pin weight and the overload springs don't make contact and the truck is perfectly level.
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Old 08-31-2016, 10:10 AM   #5
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Congrats on the truck. Don't fall for the fallacy about overload springs. While it'll give it higher capacity, it won't be "legal" and you could be held liable in an accident for towing overweight.


Folks have been modifying their vehicles to make them bigger, faster and stronger since the model T.

I guess an F650 wouldn't be safe hauling 1000 lbs if Ford slapped a 500 lbs payload sticker on it... which is exactly what is going on with the F250.

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Congrats on the truck. Don't fall for the fallacy about overload springs. While it'll give it higher capacity, it won't be "legal" and you could be held liable in an accident for towing overweight.
It's not illegal that's for sure . now as far as being held liable in an accident . if you're proven at fault in one you bet . but otherwise a bunch of BS
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Old 08-31-2016, 12:17 PM   #7
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Congrats on the truck. Don't fall for the fallacy about overload springs. While it'll give it higher capacity, it won't be "legal" and you could be held liable in an accident for towing overweight.
It's not the GVRW that is my concern. It is the squad that the truck will incur over time, pulling 15 to 16000 pounds. OBTW my Max GVRW is 17000.
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It's not the GVRW that is my concern. It is the squad that the truck will incur over time, pulling 15 to 16000 pounds. OBTW my Max GVRW is 17000.
I'm towing 14,200 - 14,800 and 3180 pin for over 8,000 miles of towing and still is perfectly level and over load are about 1/4 to 1/2 inch of coming into play. We are loading up tomorrow for trip if you like see picture of what the over springs look like 3100 plus pin I take one but they ave not in play. At 14,800 I'm little over 400 lbs from my axle ratings and tire ratings. Also I'm within 120lbs of my trucks GVWR of 11.500 lbs.

I moved a 5er from one spot to another in the same campgrounds and the guy said he around 3800 pin 16,000 GVW and that's what it took to get the overloads into play. That is getting into the area of needing airbags to level the truck but now I'm close or over axle ratings and way over my 11,500 GVWR of my truck.
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I keep seeing people say that my truck is rated to tow XX,XXX but that's is stripped down truck with zero options without even a hitch and 150 lbs driver and nothing else in the truck pulling a 5er with 15% pin weight or TT with 10% tongue weight. Good luck find a 5er with at 16,000 lbs with a 15% (2400 pin weight) - more like 23% (3680 pin weight).

This video explains how to figure your towing ratings using GCWR and the GVWR. Also explains how to figure payload.
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I keep telling people "get the right tool for the job". This is a great example of that. Even though your 5th wheel isn't overly heavy, you described perfectly what the difference in a truck made for the job is.
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