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Old 06-07-2016, 08:03 PM   #1
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Tow vehicle question

I am new to this forum so hopefully this question has only been asked 10 times or so My wife I will be purchasing a new Rockwood roo 183 or 19 just not sure which floor plan to go with. We have a 2010 chevy traverse with the tow package. I know the TV is rated at 5200#. I am just wondering if anyone has had experience towing something this size with this vehicle. If so, how did it tow? Ride? I know the 183 is lighter than the 19 but both have the GVW under the 5000# mark. we will be traveling with 2 adults and 3 kids. I plan on getting the vehicle weighed to find the total weight of the traverse. I think I will have a decent safety margin but before we sign on the line I am trying to cover all my concerns. I plan on getting a WDH with sway control also. Thanks for any help.
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Old 06-07-2016, 08:20 PM   #2
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I pulled my 2012 Roo 19 for one season with my 2011 Traverse in the flat Midwest. Just the DW and I. Probably 4000lbs loaded. Equalizer WDH. I was NOT a happy camper. Problem is not the weight, but the drag. Ran in 4th gear, 3100 rpm, 60 mph. Any slight increase in slope dropped it into 3rd. I didn't like that. Last thing I wanted to do was mess up the DW's vehicle - I'd never hear the end of THAT!

Bought a Silverado and I'm a LOT happier. (And was able to trade up to a bigger TT when the DW was ready for it!) As others have said, "Better to have too much truck than too much trailer."

All that being said, this subject comes up on the Traverse forum all the time. There are a number of Traverse guys who don't mind running high revs in lower gears all the time. One guy claims to have pulled an Airstream to Alaska. (A lot more aerodynamic than a Roo, I must point out.) Of course, there are a lot more who agree with me.

If you do it, I positively agree with the weight distribution hitch. (Remember, it's 100 lbs or so is added to your tongue weight!)
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Old 06-07-2016, 08:20 PM   #3
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I would think about this! Youroo!!
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Old 06-07-2016, 08:39 PM   #4
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Your Traverse's 5200 number is with only a 150lb driver. All the other passengers and cargo in it, will lower that 5200 number by their weight.
Also, what are the hitch weights for each and what does the owner's manual say is the max tongue weight for the Traverse?
Yours does have the factory tow package, right?

My sister has one and I wouldn't tow a HTT or TT with it.
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Old 06-07-2016, 08:51 PM   #5
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The Traverse owner's manual is pretty crappy wrt tongue weight.

It says:
"Weight of the Trailer Tongue - The tongue load(A) of any trailer is an important weight to measure because it affects the total gross weight of the vehicle. The Gross Vehicle Weight (GVW) includes the curb weight of the vehicle, any cargo carried in it, and the people who will be riding in the vehicle. If there are a lot of options, equipment, passengers or cargo in the vehicle, it will reduce the tongue weight the vehicle can carry, which will also reduce the trailer weight the vehicle can tow. If towing a trailer, the tongue load must be added to the GVW because the vehicle will be carrying that weight, too. See Vehicle Load Limits on page 9‑12." No real limits are provided on page 9-12, of course.

Then it says:
"If a weight-carrying hitch or a weight-distributing hitch is being used, the trailer tongue(A) should weigh 10‐15percent of the total loaded trailer weight(B). After loading the trailer, weigh the trailer and then the tongue, separately, to see if the weights are proper. If they are not, adjustments might be made by moving some items around in the trailer. Trailering may be limited by the vehicle's ability to carry tongue weight. Tongue weight cannot cause the vehicle to exceed the GVWR (Gross Vehicle Weight Rating) or the RGAWR (Rear Gross Axle Weight Rating). The effect of additional weight may reduce the trailering capacity more than the total of the additional weight. It is important that the vehicle does not exceed any of its ratings — GCWR, GVWR, RGAWR, Maximum Trailer Rating or Tongue Weight. The only way to be sure it is not exceeding any of these ratings is to weigh the vehicle and trailer"

So there's no real tongue limit in the owner's manual.
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Old 06-07-2016, 09:47 PM   #6
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The tow package one the vehicle is the factory one. The book sucks for giving certain weight but it does cover some valuable points in how you calculate things. That being said is has a GCVW is 10250#. The rating on the hitch is 5200# with a 600# tongue weight with or without weight distribution. I plan on weighing the traverse at a public scale just so i know what my weights are for sure. I am taking in all these factors to make sure I do make a smart choice and not overload the TV. I have thought about going to a Reese hitch to give me a little more tongue weight cushion but that's about it and I don't know if that's a waste of time and money. Keep in mind we have not made any real decision as of yet. As far as weight and sway stuff I am looking at the new Reese steadi-flex system. It looks Like it may be a good fit. It's only 75lbs so a little weight savings over some but we will see.
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The tow package one the vehicle is the factory one. The book sucks for giving certain weight but it does cover some valuable points in how you calculate things. That being said is has a GCVW is 10250#. The rating on the hitch is 5200# with a 600# tongue weight with or without weight distribution. I plan on weighing the traverse at a public scale just so i know what my weights are for sure. I am taking in all these factors to make sure I do make a smart choice and not overload the TV. I have thought about going to a Reese hitch to give me a little more tongue weight cushion but that's about it and I don't know if that's a waste of time and money. Keep in mind we have not made any real decision as of yet. As far as weight and sway stuff I am looking at the new Reese steadi-flex system. It looks Like it may be a good fit. It's only 75lbs so a little weight savings over some but we will see.
I don't know where you're getting 600# tongue weight rating on the hitch. Is it written on your hitch? There's no "600 lbs" in my 2011 Owners Manual. Only the "10-15%" of total loaded weight. Going with the tow rating of 5200 lbs, that would be 520-780 lbs. Of course, you have to subtract the weight of the wife & kids and stuff from 5200, then go with 10-15% of that.

Maybe you're trying to rationalize why the Traverse will be OK. And maybe you'll be happy. Just be prepared to NOT be happy.
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Old 06-07-2016, 10:06 PM   #8
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Umm ok. It is wrote on a big white sticker on the hitch that was supplied from GM to go on the vehicle. so I'm not trying to rationalize anything. I'm trying to make a choice that will not kill my family or anyone else on the road which is why I am asking questions and looking for better answers than what the book tells me. so with that being said if anyone else has some insight without being rude that would be great. Thanks
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Wasn't trying to be rude. Sorry you took it that way. No such sticker on MY hitch.

You have MY opinion from personal experience. Feel free to do what you want.
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The rating on the hitch is for the hitch itself, not necessarily for the vehicle.
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