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Old 04-16-2014, 10:56 AM   #81
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2012. My fuel mileage isn't great - generally 12-13 around town. We've hit 14-15 on non-towing highway tanks but don't do them all that often. I have the 4.10 gears in mine; crew cab; long bed.
My 2011 6.7 F250 had 3.31's. I'm sure that the 4.10's have a lot to do with your lower mileage. Mine pulled my 8K TT in 6th and rarely dropped a gear- can't imagine having 4.10's.
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Old 04-16-2014, 10:56 AM   #82
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My 2014 Ram 3500 6.7 Crewcab 8 ft bed with the Black Appearance Package stickered at 58500 and I got it for 49000.

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Old 04-16-2014, 11:19 AM   #83
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My 2011 6.7 F250 had 3.31's. I'm sure that the 4.10's have a lot to do with your lower mileage. Mine pulled my 8K TT in 6th and rarely dropped a gear- can't imagine having 4.10's.
She's a beast, that's for sure. Turns out, I likely didn't need the 4.10s after all (according to the numbers, at least). I didn't fully understand the overlap of pin weight.

BUT- I do love the truck. Just passed 24,000 miles on it. 8,000+ of them have been towing miles. It's one of our 2 daily driver vehicles, but sits most of the time since I work from home.
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My 2014 Ram 3500 6.7 Crewcab 8 ft bed with the Black Appearance Package stickered at 58500 and I got it for 49000.
I don't recall our exact numbers, but I feel like my 2012 DRW/Crew Cab was similar.
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So Dodge just now offered DEF fluid in '13? From what i have read, if you are going to buy a new(er)Diesel, it is better to buy one with the DEF?
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So Dodge just now offered DEF fluid in '13? From what i have read, if you are going to buy a new(er)Diesel, it is better to buy one with the DEF?
DEF is strictly for emissions purposes, it's better for the environment (They say) but for you? It's more stuff to maintain.
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So Dodge just now offered DEF fluid in '13? From what i have read, if you are going to buy a new(er)Diesel, it is better to buy one with the DEF?
Yep, better mpg with def.

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DEF is strictly for emissions purposes, it's better for the environment (They say) but for you? It's more stuff to maintain.
what's there to maintain? I haven't even had to add any DEF to my truck with about 4000 miles on it so far. Its a great system, not without faults, but sure isn't like the 6.0 Powerstroke EGR approach to emissions. Its used on all the farm equipment I work on, and the farmers love it because the fuel economy coupled with the extreme power since the engines are "uncorked" is a winning combination.
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DEF cost money, and the system will eventually break putting it into limp mode.

The DEF does nothing to increase power or mileage, it's a better way to handle emissions is all.
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everything breaks at some point, and every emission system since forever was not designed to increase power or mileage, just decrease emissions, so where is DEF any different from a cat converter, which will eventually clog or fall apart, an egr, which has many ways to fail?
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