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Old 12-16-2015, 10:44 AM   #1
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Towing 5th wheels with 1/2 ton trucks (split from another thread)

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Hey Bama , good looking 5vr what does it weigh?
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Old 12-16-2015, 10:58 AM   #2
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Hey Bama , good looking 5vr what does it weigh?
We actually had the weight police weight our rig at Goshen. Considering our EcoBeast can yak 11K down the road, we are well writhing weight range.

Pin Weight: 1,524 lbs.
GVWR: 9,350 lbs.
CCC: 1,557 lbs.

Oh yeah...the whole rig (TV & 5er) will probably be up for sale in mid-2016
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Old 12-16-2015, 03:26 PM   #3
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We actually had the weight police weight our rig at Goshen. Considering our EcoBeast can yak 11K down the road, we are well writhing weight range.

Pin Weight: 1,524 lbs.
GVWR: 9,350 lbs.
CCC: 1,557 lbs.

Oh yeah...the whole rig (TV & 5er) will probably be up for sale in mid-2016
Were are you seeing a GVWR of 9350 for F150. Most of the F150 have in 6000lbs with few low option HD payload getting to the 7000 GVWR range.

Addded - Found one at 7800 GVWR http://www.ford.com/trucks/f150/specifications/payload/
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Old 12-16-2015, 03:49 PM   #4
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F-150 update

Okay, the F-150 can indeed haul 11,300 lbs in 2014 year and earlier ecoboosts with the 3.73 rear end. It is that gearing that gets the job done, plus the heavy duty tow package (tranny oil cooler, sway bar, oversized radiator.)

We (sorry for lack of photo) have towed a Rockwood 32' fifth wheel for 18 months, from Tennessee to Colorado to AZ to California up the coast to Washington, through the mountains to Montana and on to Colorado again before going south to Florida for this winter. Averaging 10.5 mpg, no towing challenges at all, including 2 - 5% grades. Keep it set at 60 mph and not a hiccup. 42,000 miles in 18 months and counting, about 7,000 towing miles.

2015-16 F-150s can tow 12,000 with the same config because they have taken weight out of the truck.
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Old 12-16-2015, 04:14 PM   #5
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the 9350 lb is for the trailer not the F150.
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Old 12-16-2015, 04:26 PM   #6
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the 9350 lb is for the trailer not the F150.
So it not his GVWR but trailer weight then the numbers are possible to stay within specs. Light pin just over 16% but possible but in some case can cause towing problems being that light.

This is the what GVWR means and where many people including me got in trouble thinking I could tow 15,900 with 2500HD diesel and 11380lbs put me 200lbs below my max axle weights on 2500hd and 980 lbs over my GVWR.

Understanding Gross Vehicle Weight Rating

Knowing and understanding GVWR is important to towing because it tells you explicitly the maximum weight of passengers and cargo you can safely carry in your truck or SUV. GVWR is the total combined weight of truck, including all passengers, fuel, fluids and cargo. GVWR is constant and does not change, regardless of what you tow. It’s engineered in when the vehicle is manufactured.

Because tongue weight must be included in the GVWR, you will need to know how much weight capacity you need to have “left over” for when you hook up your trailer.

For example, if you have a 5,000-pound truck with a 6,200 pound GVWR, you can safely carry 1,200 pounds in the vehicle. If you are towing a trailer with a 300-pound tongue weight, the amount of passengers and gear you can carry decreases to 900 pounds. Simple, right?

To be sure you choose the right tow vehicle, you must find the vehicle with a tow rating high enough to meet your needs. It’s usually a good idea to get a bit more capacity than what your currents needs are. But at the very least, be certain the towed load and tongue weight are within your vehicle’s capacity.


What does GVWR mean?
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Old 12-16-2015, 05:46 PM   #7
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Forest River Ultra Lite 8200 series was made to be pulled by a 1/2 ton pickup We have a 8280 pulled by a Silverdo 1/2 ton 4x4 which falls will below the gvw for that truck . We have towed it all over New England with no problem .
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Back in the early1990s I towed a Forest River 5er with no slides. They did not have lightweight ones then. Towed it a few times with the GMC 1500 and darned near burned up the transmission on a trip to NC. Ordered an F250 to stop the nonsense and then moved on to a Montana in 1999 (which the weight police would not approve of but I towed that baby for years without a problem and I had a short bed, extended cab and no slide hitch). However, today, the newer light weights are made for the 1/2 ton trucks and it is no longer a problem.
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My husband and I (because we believe it's safer and easier on the vehicle) haul our 5th wheel with a 3/4 ton only. And he IS a weights inspector supervisor for the state of PA. He doesn't care what you do with them because you won't be inspected, so have at it. He just has seen so many accidents due to overhauling weights that he errors on the cautious side.
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My husband and I (because we believe it's safer and easier on the vehicle) haul our 5th wheel with a 3/4 ton only. And he IS a weights inspector supervisor for the state of PA. He doesn't care what you do with them because you won't be inspected, so have at it. He just has seen so many accidents due to overhauling weights that he errors on the cautious side.
Your husband does know there are a lot of "1/2 ton" trucks that have more "available payload" than a lot of "3/4 ton" trucks according to the little sticker right?
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