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Old 01-02-2015, 05:51 PM   #21
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I was just going by the chart here: 2015 Ford F-150 | View Payload Specifications | Ford.com

The largest GVWR I see is 7850 lbs, with the HD payload package. Other years could be different.
Just remember that the 15's are now 700 pounds lighter so GVWR is not necessarily the best indicator. Payload is actually HIGHER in the 15's.
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Old 01-02-2015, 06:05 PM   #22
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All I can add is that this is how accidents happen. Allow for the worst case scenario when picking out a tow vehicle. There are other factors beside payload to consider. Your life and the lives of those on the road with you are at risk if you bend safety margins. Bigger is better. Just my opinion. Good luck and safe journey.
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Old 01-02-2015, 06:36 PM   #23
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I tow with F150 extended cab, with tow package, but not the HD payload package. We tow a Rockwood 8285 fiver and weighs 8500lbs when loaded for our long excursions. This truck has never hesitated no matter what the terrain. But I am at my weight limits and as I look at a newer RV I need to also have a larger truck. Ooops, I should have thought about that before I bought.

I have wondered how the ride would feel when a person compares the weight ratio between RV and truck with a F150 compared to a F250 or F350.
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Old 01-02-2015, 07:41 PM   #24
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we tow a rockwood 8289ws with our 2011 f150 lariat 6.2 engine tows like a dream .
we have a 5.5 box and use reese revolution hitch pin works perfect.
we tow on hwy 401 and 417 no worries 10 k per year
I have talked to lots with the ecoboost they seem happy all admire the 6.2, wish ford would have kept it for 2015
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Old 01-02-2015, 07:50 PM   #25
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Lots of good feedback. I have what you are inquiring. 2013 F-150,EB Max tow package etc. We pull 31’ Super lite 8582. Yes, the rear axial payload is an issue. The only one. We carefully selected the 5r to match the truck and our needs. We have 200 lbs to spare on the rear axel and 400+ on the front when fully loaded - gas, two riders, dog, gear, but run with empty water tanks. Any extra weight to add goes into the back of the trailer because it’s only 7200 lbs loaded and the truck can pull 11,200. The truck sits level and true with OEM. It pulls away from most gas V8s but not the diesels. I’m happy with our choice after 3000 miles pulling last summer. A cross wind causes the tracking system to engage which is a little hairy until I got used to it. Only happens when passing a bluff. If you don’t intend to go with a larger 5r then do it. We averaged 8.3mpg US but when into a strong headwind she definitely works hard and the fuel consumption drops big time compared to a diesel. That would be different with a TT. Less drag! But the simplicity of gas is worth the trade off in my opinion and the 5r pulls and handles effortlessly compared to a TT. I’m sure some may disagree with me but this is my honest experience. Hope this helps.
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Old 01-02-2015, 11:21 PM   #26
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I had a 2013 Crew Cab, Ecoboost, 2wd, MaxTow/HD Payload. It was ordered and purchased with the requirement that it tow the Fifth Wheel we wanted. Our Trailer was delivered to us @9130 lbs, pin weight ~1400lbs, I figure it is just under 10,000 loaded and rolling (empty grey, black @ 10 gallons and fresh @15 gallons). The truck never lacked for Power, stopping ability, or handling. What it did lack for was Payload. We were @ ~2350lbs of payload, with the truck rated to haul 2428lbs. This is the truck loaded for a week long vacation, everybody in the truck except me.



As I said, it did the job very well. However, after needing 4wd (thankfully without the trailer attached) a few times, it was time for a new truck. The 4wd trucks have a curb weight increase (payload decrease) of ~300lbs. I was not willing to risk it. The truck handled the weight just fine, I was fairly confident the 4x4 version would be equally fine, but I just was not going to worry about it. So I went looking for "3/4 ton" 4x4 crew cab DIESEL trucks. What did I find, they all had payload rating less than my F150! All of them (regardless of brand) were rated @ ~1950 - ~2200 lbs. I looked at a the 1 tons, and for ~$400.00 more, my payload is now 3550lbs (short bed).


Is there a big difference between the F350 and the F150, you bet! But I still contend that with the right trailer and family the F150 is more than suitable for SAFELY towing a modern light weight fifth wheel. That said, if you camp like us, and go on long vacations or go ever other weekend when the weather is right, I think the bigger trucks are right for you.
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Old 01-02-2015, 11:23 PM   #27
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Just to clarify, a standard f150 has a 7200 gvw. Max-tow is 7700, and HD is 8200. There has been some discussion on the f150 forum that the HD payload package is nothing more than some stiffer springs and 7 lug axleshafts
The springs and the axles are the big difference. The axles are larger spline count and larger diameter. The differential is larger and the ring gear thickness is larger as well. Otherwise, they are the same. However, the axle differences are substantial.
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I have been looking at the new Lite Fifth Wheel units. I have the Max Tow F-150 Eco-boost 3:73 rear end with the 11,300 lb. rating.
What is the experience of those who have towed the 9000lb Fifth wheel units loaded to 10,000 / 11,000lb with all the "stuff" ? Do you find at the end of the day you should have an F-250?, or is it a relaxing drive without a lot of stress.
I have always towed a 8500lb / 30ft travel trailer loaded with the "stuff", always repacked the bearings with high grade grease, and changed the original tires to Maxxis and always used a Hensley Hitch to make the drive stress free, as we usually do 10,000 miles per year at Interstate speeds.
I would like to hear what you have experienced towing these new Lite weight fifth wheels with your Eco-boost F-150 !!
Never been a issue with us either. We have a Rockwood 8289WS loaded to the gills and we don't even know it is behind the truck. Up hills, down hills, flat towing -no issues whatsoever.

When we were at Goshen this year, we plopped down the $60 to have the weight police scale our rig out. We were 300# over the recommended towing weight. Considering we had bought a ton of stuff, and were carting 3-500 Lbs of stuff from AL to drop off in MI before we returned home AND considering we had overpacked for our 4 week trip to Goshen, we figure we typically travel 500-800LBS under max recommended weight. So, IMO, a F150 with all the trailer towing bells and whistles will tow a lightweight 5er with no problems at all.
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Less weight of trailer carried by truck, means more weight on trailer tires, kaboom.
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Less weight of trailer carried by truck, means more weight on trailer tires, kaboom.
Which is why you ditch the china bombs and get class D Maxxis or Goodyears
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