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Old 01-01-2015, 06:26 PM   #1
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Smile Towing a 5ER with an Eco-boost F-150

I have been looking at the new Lite Fifth Wheel units. I have the Max Tow F-150 Eco-boost 3:73 rear end with the 11,300 lb. rating.
What is the experience of those who have towed the 9000lb Fifth wheel units loaded to 10,000 / 11,000lb with all the "stuff" ? Do you find at the end of the day you should have an F-250?, or is it a relaxing drive without a lot of stress.
I have always towed a 8500lb / 30ft travel trailer loaded with the "stuff", always repacked the bearings with high grade grease, and changed the original tires to Maxxis and always used a Hensley Hitch to make the drive stress free, as we usually do 10,000 miles per year at Interstate speeds.
I would like to hear what you have experienced towing these new Lite weight fifth wheels with your Eco-boost F-150 !!
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Old 01-01-2015, 06:49 PM   #2
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I haven't done it but have a camping buddy that tows a crossroads cruiser fiver with his max tow/HD eco boost. We have had many conversations on the subject. He has driven his rig through the mountains of pa and VA without issue. He claims it drives really well. He has been driving this setup for a couple of years and has no intention of upgrading to a 250/2500 or 350/3500 level truck.

These were his weights and what he said about how it handled.
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Drum roll please.

Picked up the Patriot 10-25-12 right when the forum went down. But here's the facts jack.
Loaded 5th, included 50 gallons of water:
CAT scale results: Steer axel 3950
Drive axel 4710
Trailer axel 7810
Gross weight 16470

That included full tank of gas, myself, my wife,
Chloe our 13 lb Westie and a stocked trailer.

Towed like a charm, often had to look in rear-view mirror to see that it was there.
No sway, shimmy, bounce or vibration. On the 77 mile return trip home the truck averaged 9.8 mpg.(42 miles of I 81/78 and 35 miles of hilly state road. Only had about 1000 miles on new truck.
Rear of truck dropped about 1". Still do not have the airbag on truck, and headlights were not blinding oncoming traffic.
At a intersection close to home the twin turbo's spun the rear tires from a dead stop and surprised me a little bit.
Have it winterized and unfortunately will not be using it until next spring. The east coast storm changed our mind about camping last week.
By the way, I don't know if I have the 2 year warranty or the new warranty. Dealer is still trying to get an answer from Crossroads.




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Old 01-01-2015, 07:16 PM   #3
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You likely would have plenty of power. The limiting factor is likely to be your payload capacity versus the loaded pin weight of the 5er and the passenger/cargo load in your truck. Without the HD payload package, your 5er choices are likely to be limited. Do your research before you jump into a purchase.

Check the yellow sticker on the door jamb of your truck. It will tell you your payload capacity. Remember family and cargo come out of the figure as well as hitch weight. My Max Tow is payload is 1,820 pounds but I've seen Lariats as low as 1,300. Work some of those number out; look at your net payload; then determine if you have enough left to work with to consider a 5er.
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Old 01-01-2015, 07:25 PM   #4
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i wouldn't tow any fiver with the Ecoboost, UNLESS it had the HD payload package.
just having the Max Tow package isn't enough for towing a fiver.
if it doesn't have the HD payload packages, you'll be limited to a handful of choices.
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Reading the care and caution you have put into hauling a 8500pd TT with the Hensley hitch, I do not think you will be stress free and feeling fantastic on long haul days, with a 11000pd trailer on your 150.

Many people I think would have no issues in hauling an Eco boost at its Mac, I know you will feel the trailer behind you and that for some can be very concerning.
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Old 01-01-2015, 10:05 PM   #6
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See if you can make contact with coverdog on this forum he tows with eco boost, a wildcat 5er. I saw it at Goshen last year. I was impressed. He can give you some specifics.
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Old 01-01-2015, 10:15 PM   #7
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We have a Wildcat 5er and tow with a 2012 Ford F150 Ecoboost, but we have the MAX tow AND the HD Package. Without the HD, we would be way over our payload. What are the sticker #s on your door post? Does it have the 11,200 lb rating listed? How about payload #s.

Those should be your determining factors, not what you read in the propaganda.

That being said. We are very happy with ours and have towed over 6,000 miles and we live in the Appalachian Mountains of Virginia, far from the interstate. We have no desire to upgrade (if you can call it that) to a F250 or F350 or their counterparts.

We have a crew cab and it rides like a dream and gets fair gas mileage for a truck.

PM me if you have any specific questions.
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Old 01-02-2015, 09:19 AM   #8
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i wouldn't tow any fiver with the Ecoboost, UNLESS it had the HD payload package.
My thoughts, also. Even with the HD payload package, the axle weights may be exceeded.

Typical GVWRs for the F150s with the Ecoboost are in the 7100 lb. range (depending on cab/bed configuration) without the HD payload package. The HD payload package boosts the GVWR up to around 7600 lbs (again, depending on cab/bed configurations and wheel sizes).

If you look at Asquared's friend's stats, his truck weighs 8660 lbs with the 5th hooked up...........1000 lbs. over an F150 with the HD payload package, and about 1500 lbs over the standard payload package. The rear axle is carrying 4710 lbs.........probably exceeding the RAWR by 900 lbs or so (my RAWR is 3850 lbs.). That is a lot of weight where the weight is carried on a semi-floating axle setup, as typically found on 1/2 ton trucks. I have seen the results of broken axles on a 1/2 ton truck, and it was not pretty.
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My thoughts, also. Even with the HD payload package, the axle weights may be exceeded.

Typical GVWRs for the F150s with the Ecoboost are in the 7100 lb. range (depending on cab/bed configuration) without the HD payload package. The HD payload package boosts the GVWR up to around 7600 lbs (again, depending on cab/bed configurations and wheel sizes).

If you look at Asquared's friend's stats, his truck weighs 8660 lbs with the 5th hooked up...........1000 lbs. over an F150 with the HD payload package, and about 1500 lbs over the standard payload package. The rear axle is carrying 4710 lbs.........probably exceeding the RAWR by 900 lbs or so (my RAWR is 3850 lbs.). That is a lot of weight where the weight is carried on a semi-floating axle setup, as typically found on 1/2 ton trucks. I have seen the results of broken axles on a 1/2 ton truck, and it was not pretty.
Just to clarify, a standard f150 has a 7200 gvw. Max-tow is 7700, and HD is 8200. There has been some discussion on the f150 forum that the HD payload package is nothing more than some stiffer springs and 7 lug axleshafts
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Here is the link to the official Ford Towing Guides. It has sections for slide-in campers, pull trailers, and 5er's; by engine and cab configuration. I'd be careful in viewing it in that you can fall within the GCWR and yet exceed GVWR.

http://www.fleet.ford.com/towing-guides/

Good luck. Be safe. Have fun.
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