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Old 01-13-2013, 07:34 PM   #1
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Towing capacity

I find this interesting. And am just curious to why...I see some manufactures list the maximum towing capacities for their trucks, and then list a maximum fifth wheel capacity, and that number is higher. So my question is why? Does some of the pin weight count as payload, and let you tow more? Just curious , since I'm looking at a fifth wheel, I really don't want to buy a new truck, and all the fifth wheels I am looking at are all about 1400lbs over my trucks maximum capacity, and that is with the fully loaded weight of he fifth wheel. Dry weight is all under what I can pull...

Just a curiosity I guess, as I was looking at weighs at the show yesterday..
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Old 01-13-2013, 08:53 PM   #2
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To my knowledge, only Ford seems to rate conventional and fifth wheel towing separately...don't know why.

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Me neither. The only thing I can think of is it has something to do with the pin weight being counted as payload perhaps? But that should still factor in to the GCWR..
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Old 01-13-2013, 09:24 PM   #5
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Frame mount and control of trailers is completely different with each settup. Loads handle competely different from either point too- pysics basicaly. Gm has had different hitch ratings for years too. I've got a chevy brocure from '04. With the tow ratings for each.
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Oh and the manuf. has to think how the loads handle, for braking and in event of a collision. That is where the real liability is.
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You posted earlier about your truck's towing capacity, right? Have you inquired about the cost to change the ratio from 3.73 to 4.10 as that would increase your capacity by 2000 lbs. It'll be expensive but much cheaper than swapping trucks.

What do you think the weight of the loaded 5W would be?

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wouldnt the computer need to be reflashed when the rear gear ratio changes? still cheaper than a new truck, but just something else to pile the expense on.
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I find this interesting. And am just curious to why...I see some manufactures list the maximum towing capacities for their trucks, and then list a maximum fifth wheel capacity, and that number is higher. So my question is why? Does some of the pin weight count as payload, and let you tow more? Just curious , since I'm looking at a fifth wheel, I really don't want to buy a new truck, and all the fifth wheels I am looking at are all about 1400lbs over my trucks maximum capacity, and that is with the fully loaded weight of he fifth wheel. Dry weight is all under what I can pull...

Just a curiosity I guess, as I was looking at weighs at the show yesterday..
Good question...I don't have the answer to that one but do know my Chevy list two numbers also.
IMO, find out your GCWR and this number will dictate what size 5'ver you can handle. Make sure you have true weight numbers on your truck "fully" loaded with gear & people plus do the same weight of a potential fifth wheel fully loaded and add those two numbers and compare to your GCWR.
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I think there's more to it than just GCVW. There are limits on the pin weights that are important too. Refer especially to the foot notes on page 10 of this Trailering Guide:
http://www.chevrolet.com/content/dam...ring_Guide.pdf
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