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Old 08-27-2015, 01:25 PM   #21
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Let us know your decision. It'll add to the information base on this forum. And good luck.

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Old 08-27-2015, 01:33 PM   #22
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I second dcheatwood! Diesel is the towing King, but is it the only tool for this application?

Diesel here in the mountains of CO is twice the expense of gas! Any diesel truck will be more then enough for 6k lbs.

I am sure the diesel trucks will take fight towing a 1200lb popup, but is that the goal or the right tool for the job? Given this new truck will be an upgrade is it worth the expense? I don't think so for the application.

The rule of thumb for Colorado mountain towing is de-rate your towing limit by 15 to 20%. If your are only towing 80% of your max load you should be fine.

Towing 8500 to 9500 here is possible on a Tundra, but not recommended. Given I live here and have to go over these passes all the time I would upgrade my Tundra if I was towing more than 7k.

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Old 08-27-2015, 01:36 PM   #23
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I wouldn't trade my F 250 diesel for anything. Going down hill is more important than uphill in the mountains. My diesel in combination with tow package, Ford brake controller and the exhaust brake requires little to no braking even on steep grades. Just a tap on the pedal and it shifts down a gear. I love it.
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Old 08-27-2015, 01:43 PM   #24
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Hey guys, as I am originally from CA, this is no joke:

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Old 08-27-2015, 01:44 PM   #25
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Originally Posted by X96mnn View Post
Went from gas to diesel about a year ago, still own my gas truck as well. I camp and travel a LOT more now with the diesel truck.

I find the maintenance over the first year a wash, two oil changes that cost me 400 compared to 4 oil changes that cost me 320. Fuel savings while hauling for me was huge, close to 40% less. Resale I get more back then I paid, depends on your area really.

Here is a similar post, think you will find for the most part the topic is split down the middle.

Diesel vs Gas?
Like to know why it cost 320 for oil change in gas engine. What ya using liquid gold. I travel 10,000 miles a year and change oil twice cost around $80 even if ya did 20,000 still be $160.

I'll take a gas any day over diesel. Diesel cost ya 7200 over standard truck and the smell when you get it on ya is bad also. You need to base how much driving you are doing and can you justify the diesel and make up the cost difference. I don't drive enough to justify one as it is just that a tow vehicle and I have other vehicles to drive when not camping. Later RJD
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Old 08-27-2015, 01:58 PM   #26
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Call me crazy…but we've been hauling our Rockwood Signature 8280 WS fifth wheel for a year with a Ford F-150 Ecoboost. We've clocked 32,000 miles on the Ford, and have moved that Rockwood from the mountains of WV to the Smokies to the Colorado mountains, down to the Phoenix area, along the east side of the Sierra Mountains, up to Yosemite, Big Sur, through Grants Pass to the Oregon Coast, up to Olympic National Park, then Mount Rainier, and now sitting in Coeur d'Alene. In three days we are moving to Glacier before beginning our slow trek back to Florida for the winter. Towing has been a breeze. We've accelerated up 5% grades, passing 18 wheelers and Class A motorhomes. The key with the F-150 is a) the 3.73 differential, b) the heavy duty tow package, and c) the 6.5' bed. We got the super crew model and it is a marvelous touring truck with all that room and long wheelbase. On the road we get between 10 and 11 mpg depending on the terrain. Combined city/hghwy we are getting close to 20 mpg. I took a trip around the perimeter of Olympic NP and got 24.3 mpg. BTW, our fifth wheel weighs just under 8,000 lbs empty. We figure close to 9,000 fully loaded. Towing capacity of the F-150 is 11,300 lbs. And it does it!
Endorsed. I have a F150 Ecoboost with all of the heavy duty tow packages and we went up and down the rockies twice last year and twice across the appalachinas with an 8280 and a full load. The ride difference between a 150 and 250 is large and makes life easier on long hauls which I have done, up to 800KM when i'm in a rush. No need for a diesel for the rig quoted and the Ecoboost provides the appropriate highway economy.
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Old 08-27-2015, 02:04 PM   #27
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Just traded my Dodge 1500 and 28 ft travel trailer for a 38ft. fifth wheel and Chevy 2500 HD Diesel. I have noticed two big differences with the 3/4 ton diesel; one the trailer does not push the 3/4 ton truck like my travel trailer and the 1/2 ton truck; two, the diesel has much more power (torque) for pulling in the hills. I run about 2400 RPM in my diesel at 70 mph. I have a friend with the Dodge Hemi 2500. He runs 4000 RPM+ with the gas Hemi.

Check your used truck guides like Kelly Blue Book and Nadaguides. The Diesel will hold it's value for the premium $ over gas. In other words, you will get all of the $6-8K diesel premium back when or if you sell.

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Old 08-27-2015, 02:18 PM   #28
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Gas truck: better for short trips around town, occas towing under 10K, and lower maintenance costs.
Diesel truck: does not like short trips around town, better for frequent towing over 10K, comes with higher maintenance.
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Old 08-27-2015, 02:24 PM   #29
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Last year I pulled a 20 V nose enclosed trailer from St Louis to just north of Las Vegas with a 99 Chevy with a 6.0. Trailer loaded was at about 6000 lbs. Truck didn't do bad but most of the time I didn't run cruise just because of the hard down shifts on any hill that amounted to anything. I averaged about 9mpg running 65mph.

Early this year we decided to get a toy hauler and ended up with a 02 2500HD with an 8.1 to pull it. Our hauler loaded runs about 12k. Yes the gas truck pulled it but again on our trip to just north of Knoxville TN I couldn't run cruise for the same reason I didn't on the 6.0. I got a chance to buy an 08 Dodge with a 6.7 and a manual transmission. We just got back from Flagstaff AZ. Much better, set the cruise and just let it roll. Scaled just at 18K and averaged 10.9 the whole trip and pulled like a dream. I will never go back to gas for pulling. Just my .02$ on this subject.
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Another thing to look at is the transmission. I have a Chev. 2500 Duramax with the Allison TX & wouldn't trade it for a gold monkey.

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