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Old 02-06-2019, 12:25 AM   #1
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Towing grey wolf 23dbh with 2017 Tahoe Z71

Hello!

Recently viewed a trailer that my DW and I fell in love with and could use a second pair of eyes on TV ability (no plan for immediate upgrade)

Trailer specs:
Grey wolf 2019 23dbh
uvw 5569 lbs
Cargo carrying cap 2019 lbs
gvwr 7588 lbs
Tongue weight 620 lbs

Tahoe specs:
2017 tahoe z71
3.42 rear
Gvwr 7300
Payload 1652 (door sticker and cat scale confirmed with full tank of gas)
Tow rating 8400
Gcwr 14000
Gawr front 3600
Gawr rear 4100
Gaw rear unloaded 2720
Heavy duty transmission cooler
Aftermarket transmission cooler in the mail
P3 tekonsha brake controller installed
Anderson wdh (60 lbs)

Limiting factor in my case in truck payload. With max weight on trailer (7588) and transfering 13% to tongue that's 986 lbs. Add in weight of family + dog that's additional 455 lbs. Totalling 1441 lbs leaving 211 below payload cap. Now remember that's with 13% (12% gives better margin) and max trailer weight which I intend to stay at least 500 lbs away from.

Also checked rear gawr, and cat scale unloaded truck was 2720, with 4100 max leaving 1380 lb available. Stack on TT hitch weight of 986 undistributed, theres still margin.

Am I crazy? This tow vehicle is within limits, and as long as I'm conscientious of what we pack in the truck I should be okay. Slight concern on trailer length but the 29 footer has 2 axles and they count the tire on the real into the length.

Interested in your thoughts, take delivery on Friday and it's not too late to back out. Thanks!

Tom Wayne
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Old 02-06-2019, 02:16 AM   #2
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first: Welcome! there are a lot of great people here that can answer a lot of your questions

second: you are going to get a LOT of different opinions on your truck and trailer combination. only YOU can decide what is best. your numbers all look to be in spec. getting your hitch set up properly is going to be what makes or brakes how well it tows.


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Old 02-06-2019, 07:45 AM   #3
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Assuming your trailer weights are from the yellow sticker when it left the factory, plus the weight of a battery and two propane tanks, I'd say your at the wall with your limits.

If your trailer weights are from a brochure......you may be overloaded.
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Old 02-06-2019, 08:11 AM   #4
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Trailer weights are from the sticker on the door.
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Old 02-06-2019, 09:40 AM   #5
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I think you’re ok pulling it. My concern is the same as yours, with the length and possible sway issues. Hopefully someone has a similar set up and will chime in. I’d probably try it knowing a Hensley or Propride hitch upgrade might be needed to tow in comfort.
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Old 02-06-2019, 09:58 AM   #6
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I think you're really going to be pushing it. It's probably doable but be prepared for vehicle repairs. A SWB vehicle isn't ideally suited for a 29'
camper either.

Figure around 1000 lbs for cargo.

Granted, my experience is pulling a 32' camper with an Escalade. However, experience tells me that the vehicle probably shouldn't be towing over 5k. I fully realize that the actual tow capacity (as rated by the manufacturer) is quite a bit higher.

I'm the type that buys a vehicle used and typically tries to drive it for 6-10 years though selling at around 200-250k. If you're the type that has a new vehicle every few years and it's under warranty then maybe you can make it work.

We also like to do long trips as well so that's a factor for me as well.
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Old 02-06-2019, 10:01 AM   #7
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I think youre ok pulling it. My concern is the same as yours, with the length and possible sway issues. Hopefully someone has a similar set up and will chime in. Id probably try it knowing a Hensley or Propride hitch upgrade might be needed to tow in comfort.
My concern is the SWB Tahoe and the drivetrain/suspension.

When I was pulling with my Escalade ESV AWD (LWB) using the Fastway E2, I didn't have any issues with sway (7400lb 32' Rockwood).
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Old 02-06-2019, 10:42 AM   #8
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As you noted, you will need to watch the weight in the Tahoe, but I think you can safely tow that TT. I'm towing a slightly shorter, slightly lighter TT w/ our Durango. Once the WDH was dialed in (I've adjusted twice), the TT tows great. I've CAT scaled my setup and am 380# under GVW, and 20# over on max tongue weight. I'm effectively maxed out, but have a little more flexibility than you because it's just my wife and I, and we only put less than 100# of stuff in TV, everything goes in the TT. In my case stats are: Durango- 7100 GVW, 3200 front, 3900 rear axle, 720 tongue. TT is 28ft, 5100 dry, 600 tongue; and loaded per CAT scale 5660 and 740. I need to reweigh because like everybody else, the TT tends to accumulate stuff and I want to know where I'm at on weight (eyes wide open and all that stuff). I'm still relatively new at this, and for me, I would probably take this setup over the Appalachians, probably wouldn't take it over the Rockies. And the reality is that our trips are almost all state parks in MN within 4 hours of home.
Everybody's situation and comfort levels are different, but I think you can make that work.
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Old 02-06-2019, 03:18 PM   #9
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I tow with a 2007 Yukon Denali (xl) my TT is a 2018 272RL which is 34' long and 10000# EQLIZER WDH . Pulls great and mostly no sway .Set up very important .
All will sway now and then , that's what the trailer brakes are for.
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Assuming your trailer weights are from the yellow sticker when it left the factory, plus the weight of a battery and two propane tanks, I'd say your at the wall with your limits.
Since around 2009, full propane tank weights are included in the factory yellow sticker weights.
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