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08-06-2011, 04:57 PM
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Towing in Overdrive
I searched the forum and didn't see an answer to this question. If there is a thread with the answer I apologize. I took a round trip of 1000 and used the OD lockout option. I was amazed at my poor MPGs of 8.6 MPG. At 65 MPH I am doing about 2850 RPMs. On a flat section of highway I put the truck in OD and the RPMs dropped and during the 12 miles stretch it went from OD to 3rd gear only once. I was traveling at 65 MPH and towing a Wildwood 26TBSS with my 2005 Ford F150 5.4 liter V8 3.73 gears. How many times is switching gears from OD to 3rd gear too much? I kept an eye on the engine temp gauge and it remained in the same position as when I am not towing.
Bilcin
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08-06-2011, 05:03 PM
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I guess my question is this, why block out the overdrive? Use it, that's what it's there for!
Jack
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08-06-2011, 05:13 PM
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Does the Ford have a towing package with a larger tranny cooler? If not, I'd consider putting one one for OD towing, as well as, a tranny temp guage.
My 1/2 ton truck has the towing package and it came with the larger cooler and temp guage. I don't mind towing across country in OD. And 8.5mpg is better than 7.5mpg.
Most trucks I've seen get between 7 and 12mpg towing larger rigs.
JR
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08-06-2011, 05:25 PM
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Yes, my truck has the tow package, trans radiator sits in front of the bigger engine radiator. The reason I am asking is if the transmission isn't "searching" for 3rd gear or OD is it ok to use OD or towing in OD heating up the trans to the point of damage being done?
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08-06-2011, 06:52 PM
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Bilcin,
It's my understanding from Ford that the trans will not be damaged with some od to 3rd. shifts. The trans in your truck is most likely either a 4r100 or 4r 70 or 75, either case it's computer controlled and will stay out of lockup (od) if the converter gets too hot. My excursion, equipped with a trans temp gauge will lock out of od if the temp gets too hot, but that's only in the mountains, on I95 its in od almost all the time. Just my 2 sense.
Dave and Rainy
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08-06-2011, 07:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by daverain
Bilcin,
It's my understanding from Ford that the trans will not be damaged with some od to 3rd. shifts. The trans in your truck is most likely either a 4r100 or 4r 70 or 75, either case it's computer controlled and will stay out of lockup (od) if the converter gets too hot. My excursion, equipped with a trans temp gauge will lock out of od if the temp gets too hot, but that's only in the mountains, on I95 its in od almost all the time. Just my 2 sense.
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Dave,
Thanks, I was kind of thinking the same thing. I read that excessive gear shifting between OD and 3rd gear would overheat and damage the trans. So it makes sence that limited shifting will not do any harm. What are your thoughts about lower RPMs with the same torque on the trans? Does this affect the trans temp?
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08-06-2011, 07:43 PM
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you probably have something in ur owners manual abt it. on my diesel, the recommendation is to leave it in overdrive; the computer will make the choice.
i have taken it out of overdrive on steep grades to help with the braking.
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08-06-2011, 07:49 PM
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I have exactly the same truck and tow in overdrive whenever possible. When not hilly or a headwind.
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08-06-2011, 07:56 PM
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I added a TransGo shift kit to my Avalanche. The 3-4 shift is sloppy and the kit firms/quickens it up as well as other shifts. Also did the larger Corvette servos. I leave it in overdrive..
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08-06-2011, 08:20 PM
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Overdrive .... Unless it starts hunting for a gear. When I see a steep hill, before it has a chance to start hunting, I kick it out of overdrive.
I also have a ScanGaugeII which shows my transmission fluid temperature. if I see the temperature rising, I start to go slower and not push the truck to keep my regular speed *55-60 mph), I disengage the overdrive until whatever is causing the TF temperature to rise disappears.
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