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Old 02-17-2012, 01:00 PM   #1
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Towing our 30qbss

Hi guys, new to the forum but looks like some experienced towers reside here. How does everyone feel a 2011 Ford Expedition XL with factory tow would fair with towing our Salem 30QBSS? We towed it just fine with a Navigator last year, but my father in law and brother in law insist its too much camper for the Expedition and will be a death trap. We are a large family, husband wife, 200 lb teenager and 3 small children, plus two dogs......roughly 750-800 lbs combined weight for all of us. Outside of that we only bring along necessities, so additional weight isn't a huge factor. Any input would be great, we enjoyed the hell out of last summer camping, but don't want to put the family at risk either. All our sites we camp at are within 90 mins.
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Old 02-17-2012, 01:04 PM   #2
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Whats the expeditions tow ratings?
I'm Leary already
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Old 02-17-2012, 01:20 PM   #3
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That is really a lot of trailer to pull behind a short wheel base SUV. IMHO you are just asking for problems. What happens if, you are on a rainy freeway doing 60MPH and a semi passes you doing 80? Will that SUV be able to handle the negative pressure induced vortex? I suspect you are already at your vehicles weight capacity before the trailer in hitched up.
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Old 02-17-2012, 01:26 PM   #4
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RC1031 does not list whether his Expy is the 119" wheelbase or the 131" wheelbase model. But I would not consider pulling a 33' trailer with even a 131" wheelbase SUV.

I believe that 800 lbs. of passengers and cargo, plus hanging a minimum of 1000 lbs. of tongue weight on the hitch would maybe only work on a long wheelbased 3/4 ton SUV....and maybe not even then.

And then there is the hitch. The factory hitch is rated either for a maximum of 920 lbs. when using a weight distributing system. The listed empty tongue weight of that trailer is 980 lbs......add a battery, propane, and camping gear and I imagine that tongue weight is going to be in the 1200 lb. area.

In this case, I think the in-laws are correct.
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Old 02-17-2012, 01:26 PM   #5
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Specs say towing capacity is 8700 in 4WD. I guess my big question is is the Navigator a better TV than the Expy? Don't remember our specs on the Navigator, but it had no problems towing, mostly on interstate for about 45 miles and stayed at 55 or under, rest of the way was side roads and never went over 40. So simplest question would be if the Navigator could tow it, can the Expy or is the Navigator a superior TV?
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I believe the Navigator is on the same platform as the Expy.
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Old 02-17-2012, 01:43 PM   #7
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I have the same trailer and I'd say that's pushing it with the expedition. I pull it with a dually, probably overkill but I never like the yaw from pulling long trailers with a single rear wheel down winding roads. Just my opinion though. I'd step up to a 3/4 ton at least.
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It's your family, but that's alot of trailer for a short wheel base SUV. I would bump up to a 3/4 ton as well. You may find that on windy days the Expy will get thrown all over the road.

IMHO, you can never have too much vehicle. Especially when you have your family in tow.

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way too much trailer for a 1/2 ton SUV, even an extended one.

an Excursion or 2500 Suburban would be the only SUVs for that big of a trailer.
i wouldn't tow that big of a trailer with my family in a Expy or a Navigator.
i totally agree with your father in law and brother in law.

it's only a matter of time and luck before your Navigator gets overwhelmed.
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