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Old 07-16-2011, 11:59 AM   #21
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Hi bagged, I HAVE both of those vehicles basically. I currently tow with an o6 hemi 1500quad cab shortbed, with a 3:55 rear, auto, and 17" tires. My 04 Durango Limited hemi auto 3:55 rear end with tow package is scary as @#% anywhere above 55. AND, that is WITH the Reese Dual cam setup from my truck on it. Could be better with adjustments, though, and I only did this ONCE, and that was all it took. Truck was in the shop, at the time. As for my truck, I just returned from a 510 mile one way trip to the keys, my longest trip towing to date and it pulled my rig okay, but I have added many things, and really need to add a 3:92 rear end gear. As it is, I have added rear helper springs, LT rated tires, a K&N air filter, Flowmaster duals, and get around 7 to 8 mpg towing at 62-65 mph, and transmission wanders from OD to 4th almost every overpass or incline. The hemi has enough power, but it isn't put to use well enough with this gear in the rear.
Does it get the job done? Yeah, mostly. Would I do it differently, if I had the chance? YES. I would go with a 3/4 ton from the jump. I would probably go gas and 4 door cab short bed non dually, because I use my truck for a lot of other stuff. But that's me......
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Old 07-16-2011, 02:41 PM   #22
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We went diesel because of the awesome pulling power and mileage. We get 16 mpg towing our 32' TT with the cummins turbo diesel. I don't think you'd come close to that with a gas engine, it also gets waaaay better mileage when NOT pulling than our gas-guzzling durango, which gets around 14.
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Old 07-16-2011, 05:30 PM   #23
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May I suggest buying a 3/4 sized truck from a company whose headquarters are in America, have ALWAYS been in America and that is operating on their own good management skills and NOT our tax dollars..! Hmmm, let's see, that leaves FORD...! Also, consider only 4.10 or lower rear gears because of their towing superiority. Overdrive transmissions have made higher gearing (3.73, 3.55) useless, in my opinion, even for towing a light load. I ordered my Super Duty V10 with 4.30 rear and love it. Overdrive ratios are normally around .79 : 1. My effective ratio when in overdrive is .79 X 4.30 = 3.40...!! That's about the ratio found in passenger cars in the days when transmissions did not have overdrive..
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Old 07-16-2011, 08:24 PM   #24
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You don't need a diesel, but you definitely need a bigger truck.
The new Ford ecoboost in their beefed-up F150 SuperCrew would do just fine.
By the way, all of those people who helped you with your "research"? They were lying. Nothing new there.
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Old 07-16-2011, 10:15 PM   #25
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You don't need a diesel, but you definitely need a bigger truck.
The new Ford ecoboost in their beefed-up F150 SuperCrew would do just fine.
By the way, all of those people who helped you with your "research"? They were lying. Nothing new there.
beefed-up F150 SuperCrew ?? you would be stretching the limits with an EB Scab or even Rg cab, but the Crew has the lowest towing limits of the 3, doesn't it? but then maybe it's just that I've gotten conservative in my old age and don't feel the need to "live on the edge" as much anymore, especially when my loved ones are with me.
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Old 07-16-2011, 10:35 PM   #26
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The Ecoboost truck is not a regular 1/2 ton.
It has a 3000 lb load capacity and will tow 11,000 lbs.
A friend of mine just bought one, and it tows the heck out of his 9500 lb GVWR fifth wheel.
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Old 07-16-2011, 11:35 PM   #27
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The Ecoboost truck is not a regular 1/2 ton.
It has a 3000 lb load capacity and will tow 11,000 lbs.
A friend of mine just bought one, and it tows the heck out of his 9500 lb GVWR fifth wheel.
earlier you referred to a SuperCrew, the max payload for any Screw is 2000lbs and that's with the max tow package. without the max tow package you are also looking at max towing capacity at around 9800lbs, therefore stretching the limits with a 9500 5er. don't get me wrong, I have an EB Screw and so far it has been fantastic and it tows my FR Tracer 230FBS as easy as you please, but it's 25ft and maybe 7000lbs loaded. but hey, I am certainly no expert, just throwing out my overpriced 2cents.
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Old 07-16-2011, 11:48 PM   #28
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The Ecoboost is rated to tow 11,200 with the right axle ratio, 3.73 or something like that, with the max tow package. That is what my friend bought.
Being an Ecoboost owner, you should know that.
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Old 07-17-2011, 12:20 AM   #29
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I have a EB Screw, 3.55 gears. We pull a XLR 27HFS toy hauler with no trouble. I would not do it with a chevy or dodge 1/2 ton.
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Old 07-17-2011, 08:14 AM   #30
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i have the last (year) of the 7.3 in a duelly crew. it has no problem with my 33ts (11000) dry. the fuel economy leaves something to be desired; i get a constant 8.3 while towing unless i'm on the Natchez trace going 50; then i get 10.1

my eye dr tows with a V10 and, like me, has been to Yellowstone and points west. we didn't discuss millage but he says he has no problem towing.
my mindset is diesel so it's hard for me to consider anything else. there were a couple times, when i went west on US2, that diesel got scarce.
if anyone has used the diesel and the v10, how do they compare: performance and fuel economy?
by the way, i won't put a "program" on mine because i believe the transmission is under enough stress with the current torque available from the unmodified engine.
what ever u decide on, the duelly does not make a good vehicle when it comes to parking at the store.
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