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Old 10-02-2013, 12:01 PM   #21
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Originally Posted by MTA F-150 View Post
I'm looking at all the trailers out there and it's either the tongue weight is ridiculous and the weight is down or the tongue weight is low and the camper is high. I know it all depends on weight distribution but from everyone's comments it looks like you need a 2500 or 3500 to pull anything. Now people throw out life insurance policy's, really! You need to calm down! I did my calculations, I'm under everything I need to be. If the manufacturers put these ratings in black and white I'm sure that they did all their calculations right or they would be out business! Thanks for the input!
It looks to me like you've done your homework and are satisfied with the answer concerning your TV paired with your new camper. Happy camping. Let us know how it works out.


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Old 10-02-2013, 01:28 PM   #22
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You throw this out in every discussion regarding insurance issues but at not time does the "poster of unknown credentials" cite any case law or provide any proof.
Unknown credentials? Perhaps you don't believe the credentials he gave in post #13? He is an expert in the field and I certain don't expect him to post examples.

MTA, no one is talking about Life insurance. We're talking about auto liability insurance.

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Old 10-02-2013, 01:48 PM   #23
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I tow my 2007 30' Wildwood with my new 2013 Ford F150 with the 5.0 and have problems what so ever. Towed the UP of Michigan for a 8 hour trip and no problems. Get about 10.4 miles a gallon and with the back up camera it's a real cool package. I also have weight distribution and sway bars. If you add those to your towing package I think you will be fine if not driving in extreme conditions. Also I am a licensed Insurance Agent and if you are towing your trailer, no matter what the vehicle you use, the insurance company is going to pay for the damage to your trailer should something happen. They do not ask what will be pulling the trailer when you add it to your insurance. And if something was to happen on the Liability side, they would defend you in court. Not being a lawyer I would think that if you did use a vehicle not rated for towing the type of trailer you do, then you may be negligent.
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Old 10-02-2013, 02:35 PM   #24
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I am towing a 2014 stealth 2715 toy hauler trailer with a side by side inside. I am towing with a 2012 F150 4x4, Cree cab, short bed, 3.73's. I am using the equalizer hitch setup and I am averaging 11 mpg while towing in Southern California. I do not tow above 55 mph. I think that is the secret to safely towing such a heavy trailer.
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Old 10-02-2013, 02:49 PM   #25
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Originally Posted by ependydad View Post
Often times, you'll be over on other ratings - namely GVWR and possibly either of your axle ratings. Finally, don't forget to be cognizant of the tire's maximum carrying capacity as they are the weakest link in all of this.
I agree. Although, I've found that the springs are the weakest link in the overall RAWR not the tires. At least this is the case in the few scenarios I've checked including my 2008 FX4 F150 truck stock.

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Old 10-02-2013, 03:19 PM   #26
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It’s not just pushing the weight limits, its pushing the life limits, of the truck. Got no proof, no experience and no articles to read. Just saying that if you are at or near the limits of your tow vehicle, you’re gone dramatically reduce the life of the drive train. Just sayin.
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Old 10-02-2013, 03:39 PM   #27
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When we toured the Flagstaff factory in Goshen in Aug, the very last thing done was weighting the trailer with all the factory options installed and the weight put on the stickers, so the weight on the sticker IS an actual weight. What the dealer adds on is of course not included such as filling the propane tanks and adding the battery(s). Awnings were installed at the factory and therefore were included in the posted weight.
you are right. what i was talking about were Shasta's website/brochure "dry" weights.
i should have clarified that and that the yellow sticker weight is the actual weight when it left the factory and would include the things you noted.

but the OP was using the website/brochure weight numbers which are never real world numbers.
i always recommend that buyers actually look at the yellow sticker weight and start from there.
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Old 10-02-2013, 03:51 PM   #28
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I had the dealership take a photo of the yellow sticker on the inside front door. It says 6500# not the 7050 that I originally specified.
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Old 10-02-2013, 04:07 PM   #29
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Originally Posted by MTA F-150 View Post
First timer, just wanted to get everyone's input on towing this TT (2014 Shasta Revere 30BH).

I know it all depends on weight distribution but from everyone's comments it looks like you need a 2500 or 3500 to pull anything. Now people throw out life insurance policy's, really! You need to calm down! I did my calculations, I'm under everything I need to be.
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First off, welcome to the site.
Based on your above post, you are really wanting your 8 year old, 1/2 ton truck to work for you and I understand that. You fell in love with a camper that your truck might be able to pull but will be very hard to stop. You have spent some time crunching the numbers because you know your truck is too small for the trailer you would like to buy. I understand your frustration.
Yes, people did throw out life insurance policies because most of the trailer accidents (some fatal) are the results of too small of a tow vehicle.
You came to us for our "input"? We told you what you did not want to hear because you crunched the numbers and you are all good as long as you don't carry to much food, beer ect...
Most people here have been towing for decades and know what they are talking about but you being new to the site must make you an expert?
I wish you luck with your 8 year old 1/2 ton. You will have many dirty underpants moments with it, that I promise you. We suggest at least a 3/4 ton truck for the weights you would like to pull.
Do us a favor and post again to let us know we were right and you are upgrading your truck.
Be safe out there!
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Old 10-02-2013, 04:32 PM   #30
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If the OP gets a good WD hitch AND sets it up properly, AND goes slowish, AND stays on good road, AND is lucky; He'll be fine.

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