Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-16-2013, 11:25 PM   #11
Site Team - Lou
 
Herk7769's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: South Eastern PA
Posts: 21,169
The way I do it involves the trucks axles.

Weight the rig connected (you will get a front and rear axle load, as well as the camper axle(s) load.)

Weigh the truck alone (you will get front and rear axle load)

Add the rig connected front and rear axles; then subtract the truck alone weight. This is the way I determine the actual pin weight.

I did not see from the post what the truck alone weighs, so I did not know how you got the "tongue" (pin) weight.

Weighing the camper (alone) and subtracting that from the combined weight will give you the truck loaded weight for sure BUT you still need the truck alone weight to determine pin load.

What did the truck weigh without the camper on it?
What were the camper's axles weight?
What was the Combined weight?

From the last 2 you can determine the truck's weight loaded.

Knowing the campers weight does not tell you how much of it is on the truck.
__________________

__________________

Lou and Laura with Bella - German Short Hair Pointer
2008 GMC Sierra 2500HD Crewcab SB Allison Duramax
2010 Flagstaff 8526RLWS - Superglide 3300
HAM CALLSIGN - KC3FFW
Herk7769 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2013, 11:28 PM   #12
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: St. Charles, MO
Posts: 192
OC are you saying F&R axles with trailer connected? My question is: If you only know the weight of the truck, the weight of the trailer and the weight of the total. How do you know the pin weight? Don't you agree you need the loaded/connected weight of the truck?

Herk, thanks for the update that was my earlier problem with provided math, too many unknowns for the knowns.
__________________

__________________
Timtation is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2013, 04:44 PM   #13
Flatbroke
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Genoa NY
Posts: 8
Ok Today I spoke with a guy that drives semi and has a large fleet of trucks. He said not to make it to difficult. Pull truck rear axle just off scale un hook camper and raise up so it's off 5th wheel plate and record weight. Then just sent camper back down on truck ,raise landing gear and record weight. Subtract the two amounts and wala you have the pin weight that is actually carried by the truck.
__________________
Flatbroke is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2013, 05:05 PM   #14
Mod free 5er
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Concord, NC
Posts: 24,215
Quote:
Originally Posted by Timtatioin View Post
OC are you saying F&R axles with trailer connected? My question is: If you only know the weight of the truck, the weight of the trailer and the weight of the total. How do you know the pin weight? Don't you agree you need the loaded/connected weight of the truck?

Herk, thanks for the update that was my earlier problem with provided math, too many unknowns for the knowns.
Total wt connected will also give you truck wt and trailer wt individually. Unhitch the trailer and wt the truck only without moving except to unpin. Get truck wt. Truck wt while pinned - truck wt unpinned = pin wt.
__________________
OldCoot is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2013, 05:09 PM   #15
Engineer of Crazy Train
 
ChooChooMan74's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Tiverton, RI
Posts: 1,559
One problem I ran into, you have to pat after each weigh, and with a line behind you, they don't appreciate unhitching on the scales.
__________________
TV - 2015 Ram Truck EcoDiesel
TV - 2006 Jeep Liberty Turbo Diesel (Retired to Daily Driver)
TT - 2015 Rockwood Roo 183
Locomotive Engineer
Nights Camping --- 2015 - 19 Camped | Winterized -- 2014 -18
Come read my Camping Blogs
ChooChooMan74 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2013, 05:44 PM   #16
Site Team - Lou
 
Herk7769's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: South Eastern PA
Posts: 21,169
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flatbroke View Post
Ok Today I spoke with a guy that drives semi and has a large fleet of trucks. He said not to make it to difficult. Pull truck rear axle just off scale un hook camper and raise up so it's off 5th wheel plate and record weight. Then just sent camper back down on truck ,raise landing gear and record weight. Subtract the two amounts and wala you have the pin weight that is actually carried by the truck.
So, how does this tell you if the truck is overloaded?

Just asking...
__________________

Lou and Laura with Bella - German Short Hair Pointer
2008 GMC Sierra 2500HD Crewcab SB Allison Duramax
2010 Flagstaff 8526RLWS - Superglide 3300
HAM CALLSIGN - KC3FFW
Herk7769 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2013, 05:46 PM   #17
Site Team - Lou
 
Herk7769's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: South Eastern PA
Posts: 21,169
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChooChooMan74 View Post
One problem I ran into, you have to pat after each weigh, and with a line behind you, they don't appreciate unhitching on the scales.
That is why I weigh the first time connected; and park in the yard and drop the trailer. Then get back in line for the truck alone.
__________________

Lou and Laura with Bella - German Short Hair Pointer
2008 GMC Sierra 2500HD Crewcab SB Allison Duramax
2010 Flagstaff 8526RLWS - Superglide 3300
HAM CALLSIGN - KC3FFW
Herk7769 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2013, 06:56 PM   #18
Flatbroke
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Genoa NY
Posts: 8
Ok I see what your saying. I guess I was more concerned that I didn't have enough pin weight rather than being over loaded. What your saying makes since now knowing what you were getting at. Covering all bases. Thanks for the info all. I think I'll try to find more stuff to get pin weight a little higher
__________________
Flatbroke is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2013, 07:55 PM   #19
Site Team - Lou
 
Herk7769's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: South Eastern PA
Posts: 21,169
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flatbroke View Post
Ok I see what your saying. I guess I was more concerned that I didn't have enough pin weight rather than being over loaded. What your saying makes since now knowing what you were getting at. Covering all bases. Thanks for the info all. I think I'll try to find more stuff to get pin weight a little higher
Just watch your gross weight limit on the camper as well. The heavier the camper the higher the pin weight has to be.

Use this sheet to keep track of what you do.
Attached Files
File Type: doc TV and 5th Weight Tracking Document -23 June 2010.doc (332.5 KB, 9 views)
__________________

Lou and Laura with Bella - German Short Hair Pointer
2008 GMC Sierra 2500HD Crewcab SB Allison Duramax
2010 Flagstaff 8526RLWS - Superglide 3300
HAM CALLSIGN - KC3FFW
Herk7769 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2013, 11:47 PM   #20
Fulltime family RVer
 
ependydad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 14,779
I do as Lou suggests- pull the camper and truck onto the scales (3 scales - front axle on one, rear axle on another and camper axle(s) on the third). Go park the camper in a truck spot and weigh just truck (again, split the axles for the truck).

Truck axles added together with camper minus truck axles without camper = pin weight.

No dropping the camper on the scale, no holding people up.
__________________

__________________
2012 Ram 3500 DRW/crew cab/long bed/4x4/4.10 gears pulling an early 2013 Sabre 36QBOK
Checkout my site for RVing tips, tricks, and info | My family and I have fulltimed since June 2015
ependydad is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



» Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by




ForestRiverForums.com is not in any way associated with Forest River, Inc. or its associated RV manufacturing divisions.


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:02 AM.