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Old 05-20-2013, 07:22 PM   #131
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May not be good, but show us actual data where it is illegal or data showing it to be unsafe. Like the old "Dragnet" show, "just the facts".
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Old 05-20-2013, 07:23 PM   #132
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May not be good, but show us actual data where it is illegal or data showing it to be unsafe. Like the old "Dragnet" show, "just the facts".
My Dodge Ram owners manual says to not exceed GVWR.
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Interesting topic because Trailer life just put out an article titled half ton fun. It talks about light 5th wheels weights ranging from 5900 lbs dry. These units are supposed to be built tow with half ton trucks. I haven't seen any of these units but I guess the numbers speak for themselves. Still not sure I would want to tow one with a half ton truck.

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Old 05-20-2013, 07:26 PM   #134
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My Dodge Ram owners manual says to not exceed GVWR.
Understand that, but that is to protect Dodge, doesn't make it illegal or unsafe.
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New 2014 Forest River RV Flagstaff Classic Super Lite 8528RKWS Fifth Wheels at Big Daddy RVs London Kentucky Big Daddy RVs

with a 'hitch weight' of 1134..I assume that's pin weight and empty. On a 150 that's gonna be too much.
It is just right to max out my 2500HD. My last weigh had 1500 payload remaining (truck is a diesel). My 8526RLWS 5th Wheel has an UVW (dry) of 7219 pounds and is maxed out at 9200 pounds.

My last weigh had my camper weight at 8800 pounds and a pin load of 1400 pounds (16%).
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Interesting topic because Trailer life just put out an article titled half ton fun. It talks about light 5th wheels weights ranging from 5900 lbs dry. These units are supposed to be built tow with half ton trucks. I haven't seen any of these units but I guess the numbers speak for themselves. Still not sure I would want to tow one with a half ton truck.

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Honestly, I think that article is as misleading the advertising by the camper manufacturers.

I think half-ton towable is a lofty goal but if you're an owner who chooses to stay within all of the published ratings of your truck, you're going to have to be very particular of which 1/2 ton truck and fifth wheel that you end up with. Other than the Livin' Lite and Escape trailers, the dry weights ranged from 6,000-10,000 pounds at first glance in that article. If you apply the standard norm of 20%-25% of camper weight as pin weight, you get 1,200-2,500 pounds of pin weight for a dry camper. Never mind you'll normally add 1,000-2,000 pounds in stuff.

So now, lets to with a family of 4 at 150 pounds a piece (I'll admit- my family itself weighs a bit more than). Never mind the weight of your hitch (estimating 250 pounds) and anything you add to the truck (100 pounds for that nice rolltop cover) and maybe 100 pounds for random crap in the cab and truck bed.

You're going to need a truck that has payload available of 2,000-2,250 pounds or so. Yes, some 1/2-ton trucks sport that. But realistically, most don't.

Yes, there are 1/2 ton combos. But you have to sacrifice size of the fifth wheel usually.

Again- that's all if you believe and adhere to published ratings from the manufacturer. Otherwise, you're free to adhere to those that you choose or just hitch up and go.
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Understand that, but that is to protect Dodge, doesn't make it illegal or unsafe.
The "fact" is that it's a published rating. I don't know enough about trucks to decide if it is unsafe to exceed their published ratings. But, this has been hashed to death here and otherwise.
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I suspect anyone owning one of these 1/2-ton towable 5ers is going to be complaining mightly about the poor construction materials/techniques. You can't have it both ways!
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I suspect anyone owning one of these 1/2-ton towable 5ers is going to be complaining mightly about the poor construction materials/techniques. You can't have it both ways!
Ain't that the truth...
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I agree with you ependydad. Like I said I wouldn't tow a 5er with a half ton. I wouldn't feel safe, and would worry about my truck being able to handle it over a time. To each it's own!
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