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Old 05-20-2013, 07:43 PM   #141
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I towed a 24 Foot Terry 5th wheel (about 6000 lbs) for years and thousands of miles with a 98 1/2 ton with towing package as my first setup. That was back when I was not informed about weights. I towed this configuration across the south central US and never had any issues or felt unsafe. I would assume today on this forum I would get chastised. I wouldn't give advice to do it, but from a mechanical stand point, the combination performed very well. From a safety point of view, I wouldn't agree that this was an unsafe combo. I'm much more educated now definitely would stick with a 3/4 ton.
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Old 05-20-2013, 07:48 PM   #142
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I towed a 24 Foot Terry 5th wheel (about 6000 lbs) for years and thousands of miles with a 98 1/2 ton with towing package as my first setup. That was back when I was not informed about weights. I towed this configuration across the south central US and never had any issues or felt unsafe. I would assume today on this forum I would get chastised. I wouldn't give advice to do it, but from a mechanical stand point, the combination performed very well. From a safety point of view, I wouldn't agree that this was an unsafe combo. I'm much more educated now definitely would stick with a 3/4 ton.
A 6000 pound 5th wheel camper at 16% pin weight would be 960 pounds. Well within 150/1500 payload range. That extra 4000 pounds of camper the OP is talking about is a whole nother issue.
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Old 05-20-2013, 07:50 PM   #143
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This is part of the "Ontario Highway Traffic Act"

Power of officer to have vehicle weighed, examined
124. (1) A police officer or officer appointed for carrying out the provisions of this Act may stop any vehicle or combination of vehicles, direct the driver to such location as is reasonable in the circumstances, direct the driver to drive the vehicle or combination of vehicles on or off of a scale in order to weigh the vehicle or combination of vehicles using portable or stationary scales, and measure and examine the vehicle or combination of vehicles to determine its nature and dimensions. 2002, c. 18, Sched. P, s. 28.
Load removed or redistributed
(2) Where it is found that the gross vehicle weight, axle unit weight or axle group weight of any vehicle or combination of vehicles is in excess of the limits permitted under this Act or the regulations, or under the permit issued for the vehicle or combination of vehicles, the police officer or officer appointed for carrying out the provisions of this Act may require the driver to redistribute or remove as much of the load as is necessary to ensure compliance with this Act, the regulations and the permit. 2002, c. 18, Sched. P, s. 28.
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(3) Every driver who, when required under subsection (1) to stop, drive to another location or drive the vehicle on or off of a scale, refuses or fails to do so is guilty of an offence and on conviction is liable to a fine of not less than $200 and not more than $1,000 and to the suspension of his or her driver’s licence for a period of not more than 30 days. 2002, c. 18, Sched. P, s. 28.
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(4) Every driver is guilty of an offence and on conviction is liable to a fine of not less than $100 and not more than $200 who,
(a) when required under subsection (2) to redistribute or remove part of a load, refuses or fails to do so or to cause it to be done; or
(b) obstructs any weighing, measuring or examination authorized by this section. 2002, c. 18, Sched. P, s. 28.



Here is link to whole act. Good reading if your bored.

Highway Traffic Act, R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8
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Old 05-20-2013, 07:54 PM   #144
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Chastised, nah, think we all use the forum for information and camping story sharing. I know I have found some useful information and learned a lot. My first set up I knew nothing about tow weights etc. But think I got it right now!
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Old 05-20-2013, 07:58 PM   #145
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Chastised, nah, think we all use the forum for information and camping story sharing. I know I have found some useful information and learned a lot. My first set up I knew nothing about tow weights etc. But think I got it right now!
Totally agree. I've been camping for about 14 years and have picked up about 80% of my knowledge from this forum in the last 18 months.
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Old 05-20-2013, 08:18 PM   #147
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This is part of the "Ontario Highway Traffic Act"

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Here is link to whole act. Good reading if your bored.

Highway Traffic Act, R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8
To be fair, this does not specify those weights in terms of manufacturers ratings except that if the manufacturer gives ratings higher than specified in this law, those can prevail.
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To be fair, this does not specify those weights in terms of manufacturers ratings except that if the manufacturer gives ratings higher than specified in this law, those can prevail.
I don't think it applies to the US. (yet)
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Sorry, but I think we have juiced this lemon for all the tartness available.
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