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Old 05-13-2013, 02:03 PM   #81
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So my shop f150 full of fuel with me in it weights 6456 lbs.

the ccc is 1733
The rated tire capacity is 2200 lbs per tire. Or 8800 lbs .
I'm over my tire rating in 611 lbs.
Which means if I load my "fiver" to lets say 1800 lbs hitch weight then my dw, kids and dogs jump in that eats up my 611 lbs in tire capacity.
In your mind dustman that's "ok" and "safe"


I'm not gonna hash all this out again. If you'd like to see the logic behind my position and a response about GVWR and CCC from someone with many years experience in the field look here:

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Old 05-13-2013, 02:06 PM   #82
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I'm not gonna hash all this out again. If you'd like to see the logic behind my position and a response about GVWR and CCC from someone with many years experience in the field look here:

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Your not going to answer my question?

I have an f150 with a ccc of 1733 lbs.
My 5er has a pin weight of 1800 lbs.

Is it safe to haul it ?
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Your not going to answer my question?

I have an f150 with a ccc of 1733 lbs.
My 5er has a pin weight of 1800 lbs.

Is it safe to haul it ?

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OK thanks for the heads up. I am pretty sure on the 500 lbs as when we transferred everything I cut way back and had things in boxes on a scale when I put it back in. Even if dw adds stuff for the weekend it would only go up about 100 lbs max. So give that : My math was 7764 plus 600 would be 8364 lbs. At the 20% average would be 1672 for a pin weight before adding in me, her and the hounds. So given that number then I would be over by 200 lbs as the truck is rated at 1756 lbs for payload,.. correct?
BTW, I don't think you added in the weight of your 5er hitch, which is probably another 100 pounds.
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Which makes a great point, did anyone one ask the op what his tire rating was that thought he would be able to tow this 5er?
As si would say "naaaaaoooo"

So given the info I posted with my info on the f150 less knowing about the tire rating in dustmans eyes I'm good to go.
Not

I didn't even respond to your vague hypothetical, so where do you get off saying I said anything about you being good to go????
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I didn't even respond to your vague hypothetical, so where do you get off saying I said anything about you being good to go????
The same camper as op has listed and my ford 150 . Not hypothetical.
Am I ok to tow it?

Might I add "safely"
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BTW, I don't think you added in the weight of your 5er hitch, which is probably another 100 pounds.
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BTW, I don't think you added in the weight of your 5er hitch, which is probably another 100 pounds.
Ouch.. probably more then that since it is the Reese Auto glide 1500.. Darn guess I'll have to go camping by myself and leave the wife and dogs at home sniff sniff
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Your not going to answer my question?

I have an f150 with a ccc of 1733 lbs.
My 5er has a pin weight of 1800 lbs.

Is it safe to haul it ?
You weigh your rig and are 1 pound over GVWR. Is it safe to haul it?

Do you really wanna start throwing hypothetical questions out? I don't see it going anywhere. Especially vague ones like yours. How far are you going? What type of road conditions? How fast? Where did you find tires with such a low rating? I wouldn't advocate starting with a trailer that exceeds your CCC before adding all the other stuff we haul and therefore significantly exceeding CCC. And I don't advocate exceeding tire capacity(which is outside of what the original discussion even entailed) when it is very easy to change them and have a significant safety margin.
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Ouch.. probably more then that since it is the Reese Auto glide 1500.. Darn guess I'll have to go camping by myself and leave the wife and dogs at home sniff sniff
You'd be amazed at how the weight adds up. With my family, I, hitch, our stuff, truck enhancement, and very few things in the truck bed - we used up 1,200 pounds of our payload capacity in the truck. I knew I was chunky, but dang was I shocked when I got scaled weights and saw it on paper.

The next thing is, our camper has an advertised "dry weight" of 11,800 pounds. As delivered, it had a yellow sticker weight of 12,300 pounds. Ready for camp, it was 13,800 (we were running a bit light, though-- more like 14,000 for a normal trip/load for me). So, at least 2,000 pounds higher than advertised.

It's all been quite the learning experience. I think everyone should visit the scales to find out where they're at. Even if it doesn't change what you're doing, the education is insightful.

On edit: here's my 4-part blog series on getting weighed:
Getting Weighed - Adventure at CAT Scales
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