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Old 11-20-2015, 02:53 PM   #1
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Towing: What am I doing wrong?

I was hoping to get a little advice on what might be causing some tow issues I've been having since purchasing my new rig, a Flagstaff Microlite 19FD. I bought it because the Gross Weight is 3946lbs, 3111lbs Unloaded. I've got a 2105 Jeep Cherokee with tow package and a max rating of 4500lbs. It's curb weight is around 4,000lbs.

I've been towing it completely unloaded, but when I get it on the highway, the Jeep starts to jerk around (like it's windy out) at around 65Mph. I thought that the hitch weight might be a little heavy at 446lbs, so I bought a weight distribution kit with anti sway, but that literally changed nothing in regards to highway handling.

Does anything jump out to anyone about those numbers? I thought it would be simple just by keeping the weight under specifications, but I'm having some issues. Help?
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Old 11-20-2015, 03:02 PM   #2
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My guess is you do not have the hitch setup correctly. It's impossible to trouble shoot as we have no info on which hitch your using, how it's setup, etc. My suggestion is READ the hitch owners manual and see if you can find on-line video of proper install/setup. WDH will work wonders, however, only if they are setup/adjusted correctly for the tow vehicle & trailer they are attached too.

PS --GOOGLE is your friend when looking for a video!!!!
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Old 11-20-2015, 03:09 PM   #3
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I did have the WD hitch professionally installed. It's the Eaz-Lift 48058 Elite. I fully intend to check out some videos on adjustment, I just never thought I'd have to do that after the pro install.
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Old 11-20-2015, 03:22 PM   #4
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I did have the WD hitch professionally installed. It's the Eaz-Lift 48058 Elite. I fully intend to check out some videos on adjustment, I just never thought I'd have to do that after the pro install.
Having the hitch installed by the dealer is no guarantee that is it done correctly. My setup was installed and adjusted by the dealer, and only put about 60 lbs. back on the front TV axle, from a 300+ lb. loss.

The Eaz-Lift 48058 has 1000 lb spring bars. 600 lb bars might give you a better (less stiff) ride. But the 1000 lbs. should definitive give you plenty of weight transfer, but I would have a bit of concern that such heavy spring bars could damage the trailer frame with a lite trailer.......or maybe I am just a worry-wart. That particular setup comes with friction sway control bar which needs to tightened down to work properly.

See if you can trade in the spring bars for 600 lb bars, and do the setup procedure as outlined in your manual. Once you get the WDH tuned in, and the friction sway system tightened up, your combo should drive much better.

Another thought: You said you are towing it totally unloaded. The tongue might not be heavy enough, which can cause sway. Loading up the front pass-thru with camping gear might help some. Also, the bathroom is in the very back, indicating that the gray and black tanks are there. Try to travel without anything in those tanks.....weight there will take weight off of the tongue, plus the liquid splashing around tends to cause sway.
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Old 11-20-2015, 03:59 PM   #5
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X2 on dealer setting up a hitch. Typically the dealer doesn't do a good job of setting up a WDH! Why? Good question! Just plan on doing it yourself if you want it done correctly (sorry to say, but true).
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Old 11-20-2015, 04:15 PM   #6
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Prior to installing the WDH, I was getting minor wheel spin on the front during heavy acceleration. 446lbs on the hitch seemed like a high number for a 3111lb trailer, but that's what the spec sheet on the trailer said. All tanks are empty currently and there is no gear in it. The murphy bed setup does not allow for passthru storage, but in the up position provides plenty of weight on the front of the trailer.

I've read elsewhere on here about someone driving their setup to some scales. Is that something that's easily done?

You're saying if it's too light on the hitch I could have problems as well? Would installing a WDH exacerbate that?
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Prior to installing the WDH, I was getting minor wheel spin on the front during heavy acceleration.
Now you should understand why a WDH is so important!!!

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I've read elsewhere on here about someone driving their setup to some scales. Is that something that's easily done?
If you have a truck stop nearby, it's VERY easy.

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I did have the WD hitch professionally installed. It's the Eaz-Lift 48058 Elite. I fully intend to check out some videos on adjustment, I just never thought I'd have to do that after the pro install.
Rarely have I seen RV dealers with any true "pro installers".
Can't tell you how many posts on RV forums, are about poorly installled WDHs by so-called "Pro" installers.
I would've recommended a WDH with integrated sway control, like the Equal-i-zer or Reese Dual Cam, for your short wheelbase Jeep.
The EZ lift is a low end old tech WDH.
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I have a TV of similar specs and a trailer of very similar empty weight (6501 Vibe). We are using a Blue Ox anti-sway/WDH set up to proper parameters.
At 70 mph we see some sway and the combo feels less stable. With short wheelbase vehicles like we have, and near equivalent TV/Trailer weight ratios, we are in the "tail wagging the dog" zone. I drive 65 and save myself some stress and potential problems.
My suggestion is increase the anti-sway friction/tension. As others shared, low tongue weight can cause unwanted sway, but your tongue weight is in the recommended 10%-15% of gross trailer weight for 3100 lbs. To keep the tongue weight on the heavier side at higher gross weights it should be easy enough to shift weight forward as previous posters suggested.
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