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Old 11-01-2012, 03:26 PM   #1
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Towing with a Ford Expedition

Any one out there tow their TT with a Ford Expedition? We are new to all of this and we are looking at a TT with a dry weight of approx. 4200lbs. The Expedition can handle over 8000lbs with either a 4X2 or 4X4.
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Old 11-01-2012, 03:40 PM   #2
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Hi, We tow a Rockwood 2304s with our 2003 expedition 4x4. It is 4500lbs dry weight with a 675 hitch weight. We have the equalizer hitch and sway control. Been towing for 2 years now and have not one complaint on how it tows. We travel hilly parts of Ok and have been through mountains in Ark and it never seems to struggle, get about 8-9 mpg. Good luck on your search don't know what your needs are but we love love love our 2304s!
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Old 11-01-2012, 04:38 PM   #3
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Yep, we tow our Tracer 3150 with our Expy. According to PT's website, Unloaded Vehicle Weight is 6955, dry hitch weight is 706. We are pretty much maxed out on what we are pulling, but it still pulls well. We switched over to the Hensley hitch and I absolutely love it. Before I was always stressed pulling because the TT would sway when going past semi-trailers. Now, I don't feel it at all. According to the chart from trailerlife, I can tow 8,600 with my 05 Expy. http://www.trailerlife.com/wp-conten...Guide-2005.pdf
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Old 11-01-2012, 05:11 PM   #4
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I tow a Tracer 3000BHS with a 2007 Expedition. Do you have the HD tow package on the Expedition?
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Old 01-17-2013, 09:28 PM   #5
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I have a 2005 Expedition 4x2 with the standard tow package, according to the ford manual, that gives me a tongue weight of 600lbs and a total trailer weight of 6000lbs. We are in the process of buying a 2013 Shamrock 233S, which according to Forest River has an unloaded vehicle weight of 4351 but a tongue weight of 647. This combination seems a bit odd, since everything I have read and heard is that tongue weight in general is 10% of trailer weight, so 647 seems a bit high, but I am presuming the numbers are correct.


So I was thinking I need to get a weight distribution system, so that I can handle the extra tongue weight (over and above the 600lb Ford says the Expedition has). I spoke to the guys at eTrailer.com today and they told me that I cant pull the Shamrock with my Expedition and no weight distribution system would help me.

This seems really odd to me, but being new to this, I wanted to get some other input and see what everyone thought.

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Old 01-17-2013, 10:27 PM   #6
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I spoke to the guys at eTrailer.com today and they told me that I cant pull the Shamrock with my Expedition and no weight distribution system would help me.

This seems really odd to me, but being new to this, I wanted to get some other input and see what everyone thought.
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Did the people at etrailer indicate what their concerns were?

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Old 01-18-2013, 06:43 AM   #7
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TheLimey, If the limit with a weight distribution (WD) system is 600 lbs and the tongue weight is over 600 lbs, no, you can't legally tow the trailer. Is it 600 lbs with a WD?
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Old 01-18-2013, 07:52 AM   #8
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I have a 2005 Expedition 4x2 with the standard tow package, according to the ford manual, that gives me a tongue weight of 600lbs and a total trailer weight of 6000lbs. We are in the process of buying a 2013 Shamrock 233S, which according to Forest River has an unloaded vehicle weight of 4351 but a tongue weight of 647. This combination seems a bit odd, since everything I have read and heard is that tongue weight in general is 10% of trailer weight, so 647 seems a bit high, but I am presuming the numbers are correct.


So I was thinking I need to get a weight distribution system, so that I can handle the extra tongue weight (over and above the 600lb Ford says the Expedition has). I spoke to the guys at eTrailer.com today and they told me that I cant pull the Shamrock with my Expedition and no weight distribution system would help me.

This seems really odd to me, but being new to this, I wanted to get some other input and see what everyone thought.

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It looks like with a WD your hitch has a 8,950 lb max trailer weight with a 895 lb max tongue weight. https://www.fleet.ford.com/showroom/...05_hitches.pdf

But, if you have the 3.31 axle you're still limited to 6,000 max trailer weight. 8,900 lbs with the 3.73 axle.
https://www.fleet.ford.com/showroom/...005_escape.pdf
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We pulled our Jayco 304BH with 1997 and 2003 5.4L Expeditions with the HD towing package. GVWR was 7600lbs. Both handled the trailer pretty well but screamed like a Banshee with the pedal to the metal when going up steep hills.
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Old 01-18-2013, 09:56 AM   #10
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Expedition tongue Limit

Thanks for all the feedback.

So to try and answer the questions, the guys at eTrailer.com indicated that because the shamrock has a tongue weight of 650lbs and my Expedition has a tongue weight max of 600lbs (as it has the standard towing package not the HD package) that adding a weight distribution system wont help with the tongue weight. My impression therefore is that the WD system only helps with the total weight of the trailer (which actually isnt an issue because it is 4351lb and my Expedition can handle 6000lbs with the standard towing package) not disbursing the tongue weight.

According to the actual hitch (which matches what is also in the manual) on my Expedition it says that with a weight distribution system it can handle a tongue weight of 895 and a total trailer weight of 8950 which I believe someone else also noted.

This is where my confusion is, I thought that a WD system enabled a heavier tongue weight to be handled by my Expedition and this is what Ford seem to be implying with the manual and the numbers on the hitch, but the eTrailer.com guys are suggesting otherwise.

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