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Old 03-15-2016, 01:45 PM   #11
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I tow with a F-250 CC SB using the Equil-i-zer 4 point 1000/10000 hitch. My trailer is about 6600 lbs loaded with a hitch weight of around 900 lbs.

Since the rear of the truck lowered quite a bit, I tried Timbrens first, since they are less expensive than air bags and very easy to install. The Timbrens worked great, helping to both decrease the rear slump and also helping with eliminating any porpoising. The trailer feels very solid when towing - no movement when getting passed by semis.
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Old 03-15-2016, 04:00 PM   #12
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That 1200-lb WDH is not enough for your trailer.

~8450 dry. Normally I say about 1000 lbs over dry (9450) is a good estimate for loaded weight. Might be more if you load all that space. But let's call it 9500 loaded.
9500 * 13% = 1235lbs TW.
My recommendation for WDH selection is to never get close to the rating itself, but you are actually over. Should add 100 lbs to the TW estimate (1335) and round up to the next rating, which would be the 1400 Equal-I-zer.

That 1200 Equal-I-zer is not enough for you, and it's no wonder the front end feels squirrelly (P or LT rated). Did you take any front wheel well height measurements, to confirm you have returned all lost weight back to the front wheels?

You need to speak to Equalizer tech service. See if it's as simple as swapping the bars, or if you have to change the head, too.
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Old 03-15-2016, 04:01 PM   #13
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Oh, suspension upgrades are not the answer. That might make the rig look better, but you will be still be underloaded up front, with poor stability.
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Old 03-15-2016, 04:57 PM   #14
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Oh, suspension upgrades are not the answer. That might make the rig look better, but you will be still be underloaded up front, with poor stability.
I agree. Equalizer says the front end must return Ĺ way to static measurement at a minimum.
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Old 03-15-2016, 05:19 PM   #15
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I was thinking the same thing northstar. However Ford dealer swears it will tow 11,900. I am 2100# under max. Forest River advertises this TT and even the next size up as half ton towable. Frustrating for sure!

Well it seems it can tow it just not tow it well . you stated the tongue weight of 980 is that just off the sticker ? if so i'd wager your TW is at least a couple hundred more . you seem to think that being under what is listed as max that it should all be good . So what are your actual weights ? TT loaded TV loaded all this adds up to the 11900. seems since you can't get the front back to level and or it feels loose up front seems your looking at a greater TW then you think . my 29hsf TH states a TW of 960 but i can tell you fully loaded i'm at 1200 .
Also FR and other manufactures don't care if your 1/2 t can tow it . they list their weights and see well that's under tow rating for 1/2 so now we just opened up a huge market to 1/2 truck owners . don't think FR gives a rats weather in the real world it works or not . same with the truck dealers .they just want to sale a truck and don't care if it'll work for your needs or not
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Old 03-15-2016, 06:17 PM   #16
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Old 03-16-2016, 09:26 AM   #17
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Regarding your original question:

https://www.etrailer.com/question-78970.html
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Old 03-16-2016, 04:09 PM   #18
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Airbags and Towing

My tow truck is a 2012 4X4 Ford ECB F 150. It is fitted with airbags. I run 40 psi on them when towing our Flagstaff 26 RLWS. I use those square steel equalizer tow bars. Sometimes it feels a little spongy but I've gotten used to that. We have towed the trailer about 7K miles with no towing problems. I relive the pressure on the bags to 15 psi for normal driving.
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Old 03-16-2016, 05:16 PM   #19
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Well to the original question of Timbrens I have run them on my last three trucks without issue. First 2 sets on Chevy 1500 although max TT weight was only 6000#. This was still enough tongue weight to engage them while towing. They provide nice stability while engaged and mostly non-existent when empty. If you hit large bumps RR tracks they will occasionally hit the axle making for a little rough ride.

I now have them on a new Chevy 3500. New 5th wheel is 1800# pin weight. They still engage but honestly the new truck suspension is much more stiff and it drops far less then my prior 1500's.
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Old 03-16-2016, 08:30 PM   #20
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If your going to go from a 12k to a 14k hitch , Save yourself some money and buy just the 14k head. Equalizer told me the bars for both hitches are the same, so why buy more of the same bars. Just buy the heavier duty head .
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