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Old 04-09-2014, 10:12 AM   #11
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The Ram 2500 will absolutely handle the 8289WS. Just f.y.i...after picking up our 5th from the dealer...so none of our "stuff" was in there yet...which I guess you could call the "dry" weight...I went straight to a CAT scale and weighed it, since I wanted to know the true dry weight...not the sticker or brochure weights...and my pin weight, "dry", is exactly 1400 lbs.

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Old 04-09-2014, 11:05 AM   #12
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Thanks Rick for the info.

I think my wife and I will go look at TT's today and see if those floor plans would work for us. From all that I've read and have been told, towing a 5th wheel is easier and feels more under control. Is that a fair statement?

The bad thing about upgrading my truck is Ram discontinued the Copperhead Pearlcoat color for 2014, and that's one of the main reasons why I bought the truck I did. Also, like I mentioned earlier, the 8 speed tranny in the 1500 is a thing of beauty. It's the smoothest shifting transmission I've ever driven and it's always in the power band.

Decisions...decisions...
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Old 04-09-2014, 11:08 AM   #13
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Now having said that there are some 8289 owners on this forum that are towing with Ford Ecoboost 1/2 tons...but they will tell you that their trucks were special order Heavy Duty Tow package 1/2's that have increased tow capacity, improved suspension, increased payload and likely a 4.10 rear end ratio
3.73 Rear end in my F-150HD. 2177 payload for reference.
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Old 04-09-2014, 11:16 AM   #14
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before calculating payload from the king pin weight, you already need to add 250 lbs for the 5th wheel hitch that is part of your payload. That means there isn't a 5th wheel on the market for your truck.

I hate being a downer for you but I am with Dave on this!

you figure at least the 250 pounds for the hitch itself in the bed of the truck. Then another 200 pounds per passenger. Assume you have 3 other passengers at another 600 pounds. Right there you would be 850 pounds of your 1100 pound pay load... just not a wise way to go...

Another thing, you wont like the 3.55 gearing for towing anything! I would also assume the 8 speed trans would be awfully busy shifting up and down while towing, also not smart, as shifting creates heat...

So like I said, hate to be a downer, but a heavier duty truck is almost a must for you...
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Old 04-09-2014, 11:20 AM   #15
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Thanks Rick for the info.



I think my wife and I will go look at TT's today and see if those floor plans would work for us. From all that I've read and have been told, towing a 5th wheel is easier and feels more under control. Is that a fair statement?



The bad thing about upgrading my truck is Ram discontinued the Copperhead Pearlcoat color for 2014, and that's one of the main reasons why I bought the truck I did. Also, like I mentioned earlier, the 8 speed tranny in the 1500 is a thing of beauty. It's the smoothest shifting transmission I've ever driven and it's always in the power band.



Decisions...decisions...

Indeed a fifth wheel is so much smoother towing than a TT...IMO, reason for so many people quickly moving up from a TT to 5'ver as there are plenty of great TT floor plans that can rival a lot of fifth wheels BUT can't replace the tow experience of a 5'ver
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Old 04-09-2014, 11:28 AM   #16
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They say I can't tow a Flagstaff 8528RKWS with my 1/2 T & 3.23 gears, but I have and do with no problems. Have air bags and LR E tires. Don't win drag races, but I can tow at 60-65 with no problem. In the Smokeys, Appalachians and Ozark mountains, I just get over in the truck lane and go with the flow. You don't have to run the speed limit in the mountains or hills, the semi's sure don't.

Will it load your truck, you betcha, will it tear your truck up, very doubtful. I've towed over 60,000 miles with mine and never had a problem.
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I'll walk with the crowd here, that's a bit too much. A few hundred over payload isn't a big deal to me, but pushing 1000 over isn't wise. Will it be ok? I doubt that you'll lose a wheel and careen through a school or something, but the towing experience will be more stressful than you can imagine. Wallowing all over the road, probably questionable braking, the trans will likely be busy as all getout.

Any modern 2500 will pull the vast majority of 5ers out there and will be a much more pleasurable experience as well.
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Old 04-09-2014, 11:33 AM   #18
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Having gone from a 2012 RAM 5.7L CC short bed pulling a Flagstaff Ultra-lite 5er, I can tell you from first hand experience that it is VERY uncomfortable always having to worry if that pack of burger buns put you over the weight limit. There's also an axiom that your first RV is not your last...couple that with "you can never have TOO much truck" and you'll get where all this is going

If you get the bigger truck, a whole world of 5th wheel options opens for you - otherwise, you'll spend all your time trying to match an RV to your current TV instead of camping

Good luck with your hunt!! and let us know what you bought (with pix of course)
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(Since everyone is steering your towards a TT)

A TT is really quite nice to pull, especially with all the awesome WD and Sway Control devices out there. The expensive 5er hitch and air bags you won't need to buy will allow you to buy a really nice hitch setup for your TT.
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Old 04-09-2014, 12:08 PM   #20
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I have a Ram 1500 with the 3.92 gears and 17" wheels....rated to tow 10,500. It does good with my 7k loaded TT but my Payload is near capacity with my particular set up. I have seen guys tow 5'ers with the new Rams, but i could not imagine what a stressful trip those would be.
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