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Old 02-13-2012, 02:12 AM   #11
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who we trying to fool here ??

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Fords are a lot better looking than the Japanese junk.

who we trying to fool here ??
I have owned both
and at least the 2011 Tundra
blows the Ford away with looks

and it is mostly made right here in the USA

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Old 02-13-2012, 05:47 AM   #12
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Old 02-13-2012, 07:31 AM   #13
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And I'll give Ford a couple of years just to make sure all that stuff still works together. I still remember my old 85 Bronco slipping a timing gear chain just over a 100k. Burn me once and I'll remember you a long time afterwards.
You do know they all have their crosses to bear. Toyota had their famous 18RC 2 liter 4 banger that if you didn't get the timing chain replaced in the first 100k you were out the whole front cover assy when the chain got loose and beat the engine to death. GM had the camshaft debacle and on and on. I had one of those Toyota engines. Anything built in the 70's to 90's cannot be compared in any way to anything from today regardless of mfg. A good friend who is an engine rebuilder summed it up best
"They are all good till their broke, then they are all just a piece of junk"
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Old 02-13-2012, 08:44 AM   #14
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The last time I checked (Saturday at an RV Show), Tundras are made right here in the good USA. Also, the last time I checked (a couple of years ago), the Mopar 5.7 Hemi engine, the new Ford "Scorpion" diesel, as well as the heavy duty Dodge pickups are made in Mexico.
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Old 02-13-2012, 09:37 AM   #15
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Previously owned an 04 F150 5.4 and stepped into a new 2010 Toyota Dbl. cab TRD 4x4. WOW dosen,t hold a candle to my old F150. Lot's of power,and NO issues. Try it and U'll LOVE it.
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Old 02-13-2012, 09:43 AM   #16
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As far as looks, that's is just what you prefer. I was in the market for a new truck, my Chevy avalanche just didn't pull my 2608ss, 5400 lb dry, very well, I did a lot of research. Dodge great power to much of gas hog. Chevy way to much $ and in order to compete you had to put the 6.0 in it. So it came down for me to the F150 crew cab ecoboost and the Toyota 5.7 double cab. When you start talking hp and tq they are both close but the ecoboost has all of its tq at such a lower rpm. They both rode very nice I think the F150 was a little smoother and it didn't feel as big as the Tundra. I think the interior has to go to the F150, I think it looked better and felt better inside but the Tundra had way more storage than the Ford. And then when it came down to money I was able to get a lot more tuck with less money in the F150, so I ordered a 2012 F150 crew cab with ecoboost, navigation, leather, moon roof, 3.73 gears and max tow package. Msrp of 47,110 after discounts, rebates and x-plan price it is 38,250. Plus they gave me 10,500 for my trade and Toyota only would give me 9,000.
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Owned Fords for 25+ yrs, but the last Two had given me nothing but trouble. ($3k Cdn. to change 8 sparkplugs w/only 48k on them). Sorta made up my mind then that there wouldn't be anymore Fords in my driveway. Fords reply was to bad so sad. HELLO TOYOTA and lovin it.
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The last time I checked (Saturday at an RV Show), Tundras are made right here in the good USA. Also, the last time I checked (a couple of years ago), the Mopar 5.7 Hemi engine, the new Ford "Scorpion" diesel, as well as the heavy duty Dodge pickups are made in Mexico.

My opinion on any product I purchase is that I would rather money go into research and development rather than wages. I don't think you can draw any conclusion that because it is American made, it is better. I owned a Mexican manufactured VW for a few years. It was the best built vehicle I ever owned. The worst I owned was a Chevy van.

To get back to the topic at hand, my advice to the OP is to make a purchase of a vehicle that will meet your needs and you are happy with.
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You have to strip the "nationalism" out of these arguments.

The Tundra does have a nice and powerful powertrain. But have you seen the video of the Tundra being run through the Ford test track? Make sure you watch the entire video.

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The last time I checked (Saturday at an RV Show), Tundras are made right here in the good USA. Also, the last time I checked (a couple of years ago), the Mopar 5.7 Hemi engine, the new Ford "Scorpion" diesel, as well as the heavy duty Dodge pickups are made in Mexico.
This IS a good point. I had a neighbor once berate me for buying a Honda lawnmower who proceeded to show me his Toro. I pointed out the Kawasaki engine made in Japan. Then showed him my Honda; entirely made in America by American workers. That shut him up . . .

This is not a Made in America rant however . . .
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