Toyota HP & TQ

[21C1]

It does irk me that Ford moved a lot of assembly to Mexico. I'd be willing to pay a little extra if it was assembled by American workers. The Tundra may be assembled in this country but every dollar of profit heads straight over seas. It is my understanding that the greatest cost in a new vehicle is research and development, which with a Tundra is all done elsewhere. Then when it comes to payload the Tundra falls 700# short of '10 Screw. The new 2012 Screw's have an available 8200# GVW. That is nearly as much as 3/4 tons and twice the payload of a Tundra!

[acadianbob]

Originally Posted by 21C1

It does irk me that Ford moved a lot of assembly to Mexico. I'd be willing to pay a little extra if it was assembled by American workers. The Tundra may be assembled in this country but every dollar of profit heads straight over seas. It is my understanding that the greatest cost in a new vehicle is research and development, which with a Tundra is all done elsewhere. Then when it comes to payload the Tundra falls 700# short of '10 Screw. The new 2012 Screw's have an available 8200# GVW. That is nearly as much as 3/4 tons and twice the payload of a Tundra!

But progress is being made! Ford is bringing thousands of jobs back to the U.S. For example, the new 2013 Fusion production is being brought back to the U.S. from Mexico.

I believe a lot of the work on the Tundra was done in California?

[crocus]

That Youtube video pretty much sealed the deal. It looked like the box on the Toyota was about ready to fall right off! Holy cow, what is the frame doing while that was going on? YIKES is right!

[acadianbob]

There are many real truck factors that many people don't stop to consider. Like, axle capacity, size of bearings, size of ring gear, suspension components, bushings, brakes, drive shaft, suspension arms, and on and on . . . A serious examination of these components can be a real eye opener.

[fivecodys]

We have nothing but good things to say about ours.
The 6 speed tranny works very well.
Almost 60,000 miles on it now.
We do a lot of mountain towing and this truck has more than enough power.

Bill

[fivecodys]

Originally Posted by acadianbob

But progress is being made! Ford is bringing thousands of jobs back to the U.S. For example, the new 2013 Fusion production is being brought back to the U.S. from Mexico.

I believe a lot of the work on the Tundra was done in California?

Yep. I don't why this always comes up when a Tundra is mentioned.
Designed in California. Built in Texas.

Bill

[wfmdfm]

I love my 2009 Tundra up 95000 on it now. After watching the video I hope the bed is still there after the next 95K.

[amxpress]

The Tundra may be assembled in this country but every dollar of profit heads straight over seas

Sorry, but you are misinformed. If all the profits went overseas, how do the thousands of American workers get paid who designed and produce the trucks? How about the engine plant in Alabama? The transmission plant in North Carolina? The hundreds of sub contractors with thousands of workers in USA & Canada? How do they pay the utility company at the plant(s)? etc. etc. etc.
Misinformation can be misleading.
To the OP, enjoy your TT with your Tundra. You won't regret it.

[Malco]

Originally Posted by baldy

Being a Pontiac Vibe owner, I am a huge Toyota fan. Owning and towing with a F150, I have to say that I love my F150. I looked at the Toyota but the technology for towing is what won me over. I bought the F150 for towing and safety (IIHS). It beats everything else on the road for that. I really don't think 60 hp and 40 lb ft torque is going to make a difference when driving side by side down the road. You can only go so fast. Going up a mountain, well have at it. You would pass me anyways, because I would be stopped taking pictures!

At the end of the day, but what you like.

They all tow trailers and they all get to the destination.

Well except maybe a Dodge!! LOL!! Couldn't resist!!

That's not very funny.

[lbrjet]

The 5.7L with the 4.30 rear end is a great truck. I wouldn't hestitate to buy one if I was in the market for a half ton.

[onetonford]

Every 56 seconds a f150 comes off the Dearborn plant 5 Days a week so I would say most of them come from USA. They are also being built in the Kentucky plant also. All manufactures use parts from Mexico Mostly wiring. Check your wiring Harnesses they say Made in Mexico..

[walterw11]

Originally Posted by amxpress

Sorry, but you are misinformed. If all the profits went overseas, how do the thousands of American workers get paid who designed and produce the trucks? How about the engine plant in Alabama? The transmission plant in North Carolina? The hundreds of sub contractors with thousands of workers in USA & Canada? How do they pay the utility company at the plant(s)? etc. etc. etc.
Misinformation can be misleading.
To the OP, enjoy your TT with your Tundra. You won't regret it.

These are not profits. The profits go back to the company then shared by the company to the stock holders thru dividends which anybody can by shares of Toyota.

[amxpress]

So being an International company and being on the NYSE, the profits go not just to corporate, but to any share holder, including Americans!
Does this mean Chrysler profits go to Italy because of Fiat? And what about the thousands of other companies that contribute to the American economy via taxes and payroll, whose parent company originates overseas? i.e. Eight O'Clock coffee, Budwieser, Nestle's, and Bayer aspirin. ALL foreign companies. Should we boycott them because all of their profits go overseas?

[Rugged Brown]

Originally Posted by amxpress

So being an International company and being on the NYSE, the profits go not just to corporate, but to any share holder, including Americans!
Does this mean Chrysler profits go to Italy because of Fiat? And what about the thousands of other companies that contribute to the American economy via taxes and payroll, whose parent company originates overseas? i.e. Eight O'Clock coffee, Budwieser, Nestle's, and Bayer aspirin. ALL foreign companies. Should we boycott them because all of their profits go overseas?

Not to mention that most of your oil imports come from Canada, yet you want more.

[baldy]

Originally Posted by Malco

That's not very funny.

I have a couple of buddies from your neck of the woods and I used to have a lot of fun with their geographic location!!

All jokes aside, some of the most beautiful parts of Canada and the most hospitable people too! A lot of fellas in the merchant marine industry too!

Cheers

[tsmcmillen]

Buy what you like, buy what you can get the best price for, and go as big as you can afford. I have owned a Chevy, a Ford, a Dodge, and now a Toyota. As someone said they are all great when they work and they all stink when they break. The Toyota for me does everything that I need plus it gets way better gas mileage than my Dodge ever thought of. Why did I go Toyota, price almost $10,000 cheaper. All the Chevy and Ford dealers locally wanted $15,000 more per truck starting out and really did not want to negotiate. I got them to come to down $5,000 same argument with the Toyota guy ended up $10,000 cheaper.

While Toyota is a foreign owned remember the trucks are made in America in Texas, motors in Alabama, transmissions in North Carolina. Radio still made in Japan (are there any televisions or radios made elsewhere?). Many of the Toyota's product lines are now made in America. While Japan reaps some of the net export benefits from this the bottom line is simple Americans have jobs, and Toyota is helping America's overall GDP.

[Terier]

Originally Posted by tsmcmillen

Buy what you like, buy what you can get the best price for, and go as big as you can afford. As someone said they are all great when they work and they all stink when they break.

Ditto x2

[Kf4mnc]

2008 tundra owner here and I have to add the following points:

1) the tundra video was filmed at a ford test facility. The track was designed to make other manufactures look bad. Ford is the only company that had access to that track during their design phase. Further I'll concede that my truck has the dreaded 'bed bounce', but it is no where near that bad. And, of course, I don't know anyone that drives on roads like that and if they do they don't do it at that speed.

2) the current Tundra design came out in 2007. The ford is new to 2012. I would expect that a NEW truck design/engine could/would be better than a 5 year old design. With that said the fact that the discussion occurs speaks to the quality and design of the Tundra.

With all that said no truck is perfect. I love my Tundra even with the 4.7L engine and bed bounce, but until Toyota comes out with a 3/4 ton or HD version my next truck will be a Ford or Chevy due to the limited payload of the Tundra.

[mrtodds]

This is a link to settle the question of parts content. Domestic-Parts Content: Where the Automakers Stand - KickingTires

FORD BABY! Go BIG or go home!
Whens the last time you have seen a Toyota pulling a Fifth wheel? In the FAST lane? lmao

[acadianbob]

Originally Posted by Kf4mnc

1) the tundra video was filmed at a ford test facility. The track was designed to make other manufactures look bad. Ford is the only company that had access to that track during their design phase. Further I'll concede that my truck has the dreaded 'bed bounce', but it is no where near that bad. And, of course, I don't know anyone that drives on roads like that and if they do they don't do it at that speed.

2) the current Tundra design came out in 2007. The ford is new to 2012. I would expect that a NEW truck design/engine could/would be better than a 5 year old design. With that said the fact that the discussion occurs speaks to the quality and design of the Tundra.

Sorry the video hurt your feelings. The purpose of the test is to show the underlying strength of the frame. If you are towing or hauling "heavy", that can be a factor.

The last Ford re-design was 2009 and it was a minor tweak to the major re-design in 2004.

Peace.