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Old 08-10-2013, 11:01 PM   #11
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I have used both the $50 Reese and the P2. They are two differant units and my choice is the p2 or P3. Much smoother! The brake trailer wires in the 2007& up GMC/ CHEV should be 5 wires taped off under the dash on the left hand side. The wires are labeled to which is which wire. Also attach under the hood the wires that go to the power posts in front of your fuze box and put in the fuzes for the power posts. Google prodigy 2 or 3 and there will be a u tube on it for your truck.
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Old 08-11-2013, 08:46 PM   #12
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The $50 unit is a timed unit. That is what I s tarted with and I didn't like it. The p2 and p3 are "proportional" units that will make you trailer brakes work in sync with your tv brakes. They are much better units and well worth the extra dollars imo
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Old 08-11-2013, 09:54 PM   #13
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I had a Hayes Energizer unit in my truck, it was a POS and I couldn't stand it! So I bought a Prodigy P3, the P3 is awesome!! The only brake control that I have used that is better than the P3 was the factory Ford system in the Super Dutys.

If I remember right I paid $110 shipped for the P3 off Ebay.
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Don't skimp, spend a little extra and get a P2 or p3. Can be mounted at any angle, which many other brake controllers cannot. And they work VERY well, VERY user-friendly.
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Old 08-12-2013, 05:20 PM   #15
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Guess who's behind the Ford Superduty built-in brake controller?
Tekonsha!
Get a P2 or P3. Same performance from either one. P2 is a little cheaper for a simple readout. P3 is a bit more for a more user friendly LCD display. I have the older Prodigy, which is the predecessor to the P2. Now in my 11th season with the same unit. If/when it ever wears out, I'll get a P3. But at this rate, with no moving parts, I don't think it will ever die.
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Old 08-12-2013, 06:23 PM   #16
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The brakes on the trailer are activated by an electric current being sent through the electromagnets in the brake. The greater the current, the greater the stopping power. There are three different types of controller.


The least expensive (and least effective) are time based. They sense that your brake pedal is depressed and send out a current. If you hold the pedal down, they gradually increase the amount of current. If you pump the brake, you never get much trailer braking. You also don't get much help in a hard panic stop. The Reese is typical of this type.

A step up, is the inertial based controller. When you hit your brakes, the controller senses that the truck is slowing, and sends out a current that is proportional to the rate at which the truck is slowing. They work well except when conditions are very slippery. You hit the brake har and begin to skid. The truck isn't slowing down, so the controller doesn't know that hou have hit the brake, and it doesn't send out any current. The Tekonsha is the best known of these, but there are others.

The best type senses the hydraulic pressure in you brake lines and sends out a proportional current. The factory brake controllers in the newer trucks are this type. There are some after market controllers like this, but the installation is more complex because you need to tap into the truck's brake lines.

My truck came with the factory controller, but if I were adding one, I would go with either model of the Tekonsha.

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Old 08-20-2013, 03:21 PM   #17
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Is anyone sure that the recent factory controllers on SuperDuty and other trucks are actually using hydraulic pressure data? The Ford systems being Tekonsha-based, I had heard that these were still accelerometer-based. The difference compared to the add-on controllers was that they were electronically integrated into the ABS/TC/slip-control systems.

Honest question. I don't know.
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Is anyone sure that the recent factory controllers on SuperDuty and other trucks are actually using hydraulic pressure data? The Ford systems being Tekonsha-based, I had heard that these were still accelerometer-based. The difference compared to the add-on controllers was that they were electronically integrated into the ABS/TC/slip-control systems.

Honest question. I don't know.
I can only tell you that the harder I press on the brake pedal, the more LEDs light up on the Ford display, and that is true at a dead stop, so it is certainly not inertia based. It may be tapped into the ABS system, or maybe it has something that measures directly how hear the pedal is depressed.
It's awesome, whatever it is.
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Old 08-20-2013, 08:08 PM   #19
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I use the P-2, what a difference it made, would imagine p-3 to be a step up from p-2.
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Old 08-20-2013, 08:20 PM   #20
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I have a drawtite I've had it twelve years some times when I hit the brakes I'll look at and sometimes it post O I hit the bracket it will work good for for awhile !
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