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Old 06-15-2016, 01:37 PM   #21
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Take the XLR Thunderbolt 385 for example. It's not overly large 42' but it has a GVWR of 21,000lbs. For sure there are larger examples.

I'll use my truck as an example. GMC 3500 Duramax DRW
GVWR is 13,025lbs
GCWR is 31,000
5th Wheel tow rating is 22,600lbs

To tow this combo in Nevada (if you are a Nevada resident) the sum of the truck and trailer's GVWRs need to be 31,000lbs or less. With this combination the sum is 34,025lbs so would be considered out of spec even though the tow rating is more than the trailers GVWR of 21,000lbs.

Frustrating for sure.


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Old 06-15-2016, 01:51 PM   #22
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Note that at least in Nevada if you get pulled over the officer may check the GVWR's for the truck and trailer and compare the sum to the trucks GCWR.

As the trucks GCWR is normally smaller than the trucks tow rating + the GVWR you may have a problem. They can require you to disconnect and call for another truck that has the proper GCWR.


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Highway Patrols can do the same here. It is written right in the highway rules here about exceeding vehicle GVWR's.
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Highway Patrols can do the same here. It is written right in the highway rules here about exceeding vehicle GVWR's.
From reading more on this I'm betting most Highway Patrols can do that. I've also never heard of any RVer getting pulled over for this either. So I'm thinking it's one of the laws that only comes into play when you are obviously over loaded and a danger to everyone. I'm thinking of all the caravans we see going to Mexico with used cars and farm equipment. It amazes me how they can put a whole farm worth of equipment on one lightweight flatbed and pull it with a car
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Old 06-15-2016, 02:31 PM   #24
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Take the XLR Thunderbolt 385 for example. It's not overly large 42' but it has a GVWR of 21,000lbs. For sure there are larger examples.

I'll use my truck as an example. GMC 3500 Duramax DRW
GVWR is 13,025lbs
GCWR is 31,000
5th Wheel tow rating is 22,600lbs

To tow this combo in Nevada (if you are a Nevada resident) the sum of the truck and trailer's GVWRs need to be 31,000lbs or less. With this combination the sum is 34,025lbs so would be considered out of spec even though the tow rating is more than the trailers GVWR of 21,000lbs.

Frustrating for sure.


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Definitely frustrating. The state(s) either don't know the difference between weight Rating(s) and actual weight... or they just choose to be a-holes.

They should require an actual scale weight instead.


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Old 06-15-2016, 02:53 PM   #25
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Take the XLR Thunderbolt 385 for example. It's not overly large 42' but it has a GVWR of 21,000lbs. For sure there are larger examples.

I'll use my truck as an example. GMC 3500 Duramax DRW
GVWR is 13,025lbs
GCWR is 31,000
5th Wheel tow rating is 22,600lbs

To tow this combo in Nevada (if you are a Nevada resident) the sum of the truck and trailer's GVWRs need to be 31,000lbs or less. With this combination the sum is 34,025lbs so would be considered out of spec even though the tow rating is more than the trailers GVWR of 21,000lbs.

Frustrating for sure.


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You assumed that the RV used in your example was at max weight (21,000#) and that the pin weight plus your cargo caused you to be at max GVWR for your truck. I don't know what your payload is for your truck (yellow sticker) but I'm going to guess north of 5000 lbs. the 5th would typically add 4000 pin weight so you have 1000 pounds for you and your stuff.

Also the 385 is a toy hauler and according to spec has a pin weight of 2500 lbs. that is no way going to get you near your GVWR on your dully.... the key here is the distribution of weight to your truck via the pin weight. I would bet your truck would have not issue with that trailer..
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Old 06-15-2016, 02:59 PM   #26
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A 40ft plus 5'er isn't anymore difficult to tow than a 30 footer in my opinion. That being said, what you tow with can make it or break it. You mentioned doing some considerable traveling, likely pulling a 40ft'r, go with a dually. From new, the money difference between a single wheel to dual wheel is negligible. The extra rubber on the ground does make a positive difference. As far as the camper, I say go as big as you can stand. The only thing to consider is that some of the older or smaller campgrounds have trouble accommodating the bigger trailers. Otherwise go forth and do!
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Not to worry...We have a 2011 F350 diesel SRW and haul our 41' 5er all over the country. We dont have trouble getting spots....Better half calls while we are traveling and tells them what length we are and requests pull-through spots. Most can accomodate. Only place it was close was in Arizona where the park is 30 years old, has 1500 spots for snowbirds and not built for the bigger rigs. We got it in with no problem...filled up the spot from front to back! i can actually back this one up easier than all of our bumper pulls.
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I agree that the truck most likely wouldn't have an issue.

I'm just stating how the Nevada DMV looks at the issue. It's very cut and dried (Truck_GVWR + Trailer_GVWR must be less than the Tuck_GCWR)


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Thanks for the responses. I am not sure what I read about large 5ers being difficult but good to hear a large one is practical to travel with. I know a dually would make a big improvement but I just can't get myself talked into that yet as the truck will also be my daily driver and I still would like it to fit in my garage when home. Thanks again!
We are going to do the same thing next year, so we bought a GMC diesel 3500HD CC Dually so our choices when shopping for the FW would be a lot better. I did some measuring of the width and height to make sure it fit. The wife's mid-sized SUV just has to move over for everything to be okay. There is just 8" extra on each side, and they are almost the same width as your mirrors will be on the single rear wheel version. It is my daily driver, when I do go somewhere, and gets decent mileage for stop and go Dallas Fort Worth traffic: about 15+ in town, and 19-22 on the highway w/o towing.
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Went from 30 to 38, and now 40'. No real issues except making sure I can maneuver at tight fuel stations, actually fit in a particular CG and have enough swing space.
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