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Old 06-15-2016, 05:57 PM   #31
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I'd have a few 5er models in mind and their pin weight. Then make your truck decision based on that. I gave up on a dually as I got older as my truck is my daily driver. I just cannot take the walk to / from the back 40 when looking for a parking spot at the grocery or mall any longer. Parking spaces are not made wide enough and neither is my garage.
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Old 06-15-2016, 06:38 PM   #32
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I'd have a few 5er models in mind and their pin weight. Then make your truck decision based on that. I gave up on a dually as I got older as my truck is my daily driver. I just cannot take the walk to / from the back 40 when looking for a parking spot at the grocery or mall any longer. Parking spaces are not made wide enough and neither is my garage.

Thanks again for all the replies, a lot of good info here. It looks like the payload should be around 4,000 lbs per Chevy website. As long as I have at least 3,500 lb I should be good for a 14,000 MGVW 5er with pin of 2,800.
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Old 06-15-2016, 07:55 PM   #33
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Cub - here's my $0.02. Previous to my current small TT I had a 40' Titanium 5th wheel toy hauler that I towed with an '05 F350 SRW that was well within it's weight police ratings. I bought a '12 Ram 3500 CTD dually and towed the same trailer. The stability of the dually was amazing! Cross winds, passing semi's, uneven road surfaces were no issue at all. Towing was much more relaxed and stress free. Then I bought a KZ Stoneridge toy hauler that was 43' long and much heavier (16,250 pounds on the scales) and again the dually handled it with ease. Your choice - park it in the garage (SRW) or enjoy the towing experience (DRW).
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Old 06-15-2016, 08:03 PM   #34
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Cub - here's my $0.02. Previous to my current small TT I had a 40' Titanium 5th wheel toy hauler that I towed with an '05 F350 SRW that was well within it's weight police ratings. I bought a '12 Ram 3500 CTD dually and towed the same trailer. The stability of the dually was amazing! Cross winds, passing semi's, uneven road surfaces were no issue at all. Towing was much more relaxed and stress free. Then I bought a KZ Stoneridge toy hauler that was 43' long and much heavier (16,250 pounds on the scales) and again the dually handled it with ease. Your choice - park it in the garage (SRW) or enjoy the towing experience (DRW).


People often forget, along with more cargo capacity, you also get much more stability with those two extra tires on a dually. Lots more sidewall!


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Old 06-15-2016, 09:06 PM   #35
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So I've decided to get a 1 ton diesel SRW, will order it in September when 2017 order forms come out. Next is picking out a 5er. We are planning on snow birding with it but also would like to do some travelling around the country. I have read snippets here and there that even as well as 5th wheels tow that a large one is difficult to deal with. Is this true? I currently pull a 30 foot trailer and in the past had a 36 foot motorhome towing a car. Don't feel either of those were ever a problem but I have never owned a 5th wheel. I know a smaller would be easier travelling but for sitting in Florida during the winter and having the kids visit bigger would be better. I will probably have to restrict myself to commercial "big rig" campgrounds but just how practical is touring the country in a 40 or 41 foot 5er? Thanks.
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Old 06-15-2016, 09:19 PM   #36
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Thanks again for all the replies, a lot of good info here. It looks like the payload should be around 4,000 lbs per Chevy website. As long as I have at least 3,500 lb I should be good for a 14,000 MGVW 5er with pin of 2,800.

Payload of 4000 is most likely a gasser,,,, I'd not want to pull that (or much else) with a gasser. Single wheel will probably be 3400 - 3600.
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My dually is amazing to tow with. I only have a 26ft fifth wheel but have towed plenty of other trailers with my transportation business. Before, I towed a 35ft 3 axle weekend warrior toy hauler with a 2004 Duramax 2500HD SRW and I was white knuckling a lot. Passing was difficult and wind pushed me all over. But, I get your point about the garage. I made sure I measured before I went out and bought a dually. I have a 3 car tandem garage. I also like to keep my vehicles in the garage.

PS: I don't drive the dually daily. I have a Chevy Sonic as my commuter car so parking isn't an issue.

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One other note on this issue:

You can not even take the driving test for a non-commercial class A license (GVWR over 26k and towing 10k+) if your test setup is not compliant. You can make use of a rented or borrowed trailer though. The tow vehicle can as well be borrowed but can not be rented (note for a CDL test you can use a rented truck though).

So if you have a new 44' long 5th wheel and a DRW truck you will need to take the test without your new trailer as even a DRW truck would have a GCWR that is less than the GVWR of the truck and trailer combined.


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About 5-6 years back, the NCDOT decided they were going to start cracking down on motorhomes pulling enclosed trailers for Motorsports purposes. Several of my friends were stopped for being over length and / or over weight for their class of license. It was a common "understanding" that if pulling with a motorhome then the standard class c license was acceptable. Once the "crackdown" started, folks started going crazy worrying about it. At the time, I had a 32' motorhome and pulled a 24' trailer. I was over the weight raining that my license allowed me to tow. I asked may officers and supervisors about my situation and they all informed me that I needed a "class A" license and wether or not it needed to be a CDL would be up to the officer that performed a stop (we race for money). Being the fine upstanding citizen that I am, I showed up at the local DMV office one day to take my class A test. I was told that I couldn't take the test with my combo (motorhome and trailer) and that I would need an OTR truck / trailer to take it. When I questioned why I was required to have the license for that combo but couldn't take the test, I was told that it "is just the way is is". I went and / or called 3 other local offices and was told the same thing. After that, I just adopted the mentality of "dammit lets ride" and quit worrying about it.

Luckily, the NC Motorsports association got involved which resulted in legislation that waived some of those requirements when the occupant and vehicle were traveling to participate in Motorsports activities.

Now... I still race, but not as often. I have moved beyond motorhomes and now enjoy a 43' fiver for vacations that I pull with my 2500HD Duramax Silverado. Works fine for me, and I don't think twice about it.


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I have a 2015 Silverado Duramax 3500HD SRW and pull a 43' toy hauler (loaded) and have not had a problem-knock on wood. I have a auto slide in the truck and love it. I've pulled through mountains and across deserts, from East Coast to the West Coast. Just check ahead to make sure the park is big rig friendly-
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