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Old 05-03-2016, 11:33 PM   #41
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I have owned nothing but Fords since 1970. But, when we started towing a larger fifth I wanted torque and reliable. For sure the Fords all had much more comfortable cabs. The RAM we purchased was pretty bare bones. After all, it was meant to work not go to dinner and a show.



Did my homework for several years. Cummins for a number of reasons beat others hands down. Ours is a 2004 which is what, the 5.9? We also have the New Venture six speed manual. My wife wanted to feel like she was in control so she specified the manual trans.



So far 100,000 miles and almost all towing fifth wheels of around 10,000. No problems.



I still wish I had the Ford cab or maybe one of the new RAM cabs.



Just for drill, ask an independent diesel mechanic about the cost of ownership for each of the three diesel choices. What happens if, for instance, you have a turbo failure?



I plan to leave my RAM to whomever has to settle our estate. I will never sell the truck.


Thanks Grey!
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Old 05-03-2016, 11:50 PM   #42
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Well said bitnine.
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Old 05-04-2016, 07:00 AM   #43
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You for sure need a dually with that size unit. Personally I chose the Ram because I liked it better than the Ford and Chevy. I am in northern IL so I see the camper haulers all day long headed south and west... easy 10x more Rams than anything else. Been seeing more and more chevy's, rarely do you see a Ford.

Do your research as well on injection pumps... the CP4 units in the Powerstroke and Duramax like to disassemble at a cost of 10k+ to repair. Cummins uses the very reliable CP3... that issue alone was the final deciding factor for me between Cummins and Duramax.

And before you think warranty will cover you on the CP4 issue... read the forums... more often than not Ford denies warranty due to fuel quality.
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I've logged over 600k miles on Ram's including 18 years of snow plowing. I sold GM & dodge vehicles, I sold upfits(dump bodies etc, and Dodge remains my favorite.
GM's will ride a little better unloaded but I've always had issue with interiors on them, the seats are uncomfortable and make my butt go numb. Ford's have more wind noise at 10k than my old dodge did at 300k. Ford's seem to survive employees a little better with the slop in the transmissions for those who use Drive & reverse as brakes.

When it was Minnesota cold back when I was selling and we had to move the vehicles for plowing the Cummins would start and the GM's we had to push out of the way.

The GM's, or ObamaMotors, are better now but I'll always look to Dodge first for trucks.
One of my customers when I was selling had 400k on his from transporting trailers and a guy he worked with had over 1 million.
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Old 05-04-2016, 09:41 AM   #45
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I am a dodge owner 170k on my 06 mega. We keep looking at new trucks and I really like the Ford but by far they scare me more than the other two. With a 5% engine fail rate I just don't know if i want to roll the dice and hope I don't wind up in that 5%. Also I don't like that the cab has to come off to make repairs. I have talked to 2 people that lost their engine. One was a fellow camper who's engine went at 60k and the other was a RV transporter that lost his engine at 24k. Even with that though there is a part of me that would still love to have a f-350 but I love the reliability of my cummins.
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Old 05-04-2016, 09:45 AM   #46
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Thanks Dustman. I don't care for the non-leather interior of the ram, just looks/feels cheap.
It's not all non-leather. Laramie is leather trimmed, which means the seating surfaces are not leather, but all the bolsters and other pieces are. The Laramie Longhorn is 100% leather. In my experience, the non-leather holds up against my ass FAR better than ANY vehicle I've ever had with leather.
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It's not all non-leather. Laramie is leather trimmed, which means the seating surfaces are not leather, but all the bolsters and other pieces are. The Laramie Longhorn is 100% leather. In my experience, the non-leather holds up against my ass FAR better than ANY vehicle I've ever had with leather.
Cloth seems to always hold up better. Every single used truck I've ever looked at with leather or vinyl seats that was 10 years old or older was completely shredded and looked horrid. We have a 1997 Expedition that has been outside for ~50% of it's life and the cloth interior still looks new. When I see all of these new trucks with leather on the dash and doors, I can't help but wonder how that's gonna look 10 years from now when it's all cracked and peeling. So, I tend to buy cloth and the cloth Ram seats left much to be desired for me. But, others have talked about liking them.
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I have 0 issue with even the cheapo cloth seats in my tradesman Ram
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Old 05-04-2016, 11:03 AM   #49
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I don't remember anyone saying anything about pin weight for a fifth wheel. That was one of the things I looked at when shopping for our new fifth. Maybe someone can explain why that is important better than I can. I just know I do not want to overload the rear axle and its related components.
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When I went shopping for a new truck in Nov 2007, I wanted a diesel engine vehicle to tow our 5er that we had. I looked at all three makes Chevy/GMC, Ford and Ram and decided on the Ram 2008, 6.7L Cummins Mega Cab for a tow vehicle. Why? For simplicity; the Cummins which is a in-line 6 cylinder engine has less moving parts than any 8-cylinder engine will ever have. Also the Cummins builds the torque for pulling at the low end of the torque curve 650 lb-ft at 1500 RPMS and maintains this thru out the power band falling off to 600 lb-ft at 3,000 RPMS.
I have towed with this vehicle out east and west, both on flat lands and in the mountains with no towing issues at all. I have towed a 5er with this vehicle close to 35,000 miles of the 100,000 that is on the OD and I have no regrets towing with this vehicle at all.
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