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Old 05-04-2016, 01:39 PM   #51
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Cloth seems to always hold up better. Every single used truck I've ever looked at with leather or vinyl seats that was 10 years old or older was completely shredded and looked horrid. We have a 1997 Expedition that has been outside for ~50% of it's life and the cloth interior still looks new. When I see all of these new trucks with leather on the dash and doors, I can't help but wonder how that's gonna look 10 years from now when it's all cracked and peeling. So, I tend to buy cloth and the cloth Ram seats left much to be desired for me. But, others have talked about liking them.
My first one was cloth and it held up ok but I'd never give up leather now at home or in my truck. Just like you need to vacuum cloth, leather is helped with a conditioner applied when cleaning to stay soft and supple. I have 8 years on the latest one and the leather looks new. Much easier to clean and doesn't stain, absorb smells, or absorb spills.
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Old 05-04-2016, 07:05 PM   #52
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I had a 96 Ford , with 7.3l Powerstroke Diesel , loved the truck pulled 5th wheels weighing 11,000 lb , a little weak on hills but still got the job done.
Next had an 07 Silverado Dmax , loved it for towing , didn't like the maintenance costs...
Now have the RAM 2500 6.4l gas...so far I really like RAM...no it doesn't hold the speed on the hills like the diesels....but the ride and comfort and stable feel are great

Get what you like and suits YOUR needs...just make sure you have Michelins on whatever it is
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Old 05-04-2016, 07:23 PM   #53
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All this talk about trucks made me curious so I went to the RAM Trucks web site. Wish I had not!

I thought I would never sell our 2004 but after looking at the new ones, OMG.

The colors and options and towing capacity. 900 foot pounds with the CTD and a 31,000 plus tow. Holy cow.

I think I will try and find something else to think about. Like dinner and a drink.

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Old 05-04-2016, 08:21 PM   #54
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Not a fan boy lol. Don't want to start a flame war, but I would be worried about metal fatigue on the Ford.

Frames aren't springs and I thought all trucks had fully boxed frames nowadays, thanks for the education! To be fair though, I think the F350 frame has been around a very long time 1999?, with the Ram only around 2010 I believe.
The SD platform is OLD. I will give you that. It has been around since 1999. The truck is all new for 2017. I'm undecided on the majority of the new truck, but I can say I HATE the new dually fenders. The cab will be shared with the 2015+ F150 which I'm told is huge inside. It will have a fully boxed frame, likely because the C channel frame's amount of flex would tear the aluminum body and bed to pieces.

I'm very happy with my 13, and it's not going anywhere. To the person concerned about failure rates on the 6.7, its really a non issue with post 2011 trucks. The job 1 2011 trucks did have some issues, both pickups and C+C's. And the only truck that ever left me sit on the side of the road waiting for a wrecker was a 5.9 Ram with a CP3. **** happens and nothing is perfect.

They can all have issues, and the Cummins is no longer the dead nuts reliable 12 valve tractor engine it was born from. I can say however, in my line of work (heavy equipment) the 6.7 Cummins (sometimes rebranded) is one of the most reliable Tier4 interim and final platforms. Just be glad you can get parts and service at a Ram dealer, because at least our local Cummins dealer SUCKS.
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Old 05-04-2016, 08:28 PM   #55
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I'm going to look at a Dodge on Friday. I sure would love to have a dually but then I would just want a bigger camper


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