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Old 05-16-2016, 05:31 AM   #11
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I am more confused now than ever. My door sticker sticker just has the tire ratio's and GVWR on it. I don't know if it's because it's a older truck or what. I bought the truck when it was a year old way back when and when you look at the door sticker it shows 17" tires not the upgraded 20" that are on it.
One of the reasons we were looking at the 17rp and 19rr is because they were smaller and lighter for my truck to handle.
After reading alot more post I do understand what you are saying about adding the gear to the TH instaead of the back of the truck.
I dont know maybe I need to rethink this whole thing. Last thing I want is to buy something and not be able to use it safely.
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Old 05-16-2016, 07:45 AM   #12
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The truck does have the 5.7 Hemi magnum in it. 20" wheels with a 3.92 axel ratio. gvwr 6,350 lbs. gcwr 13,000 lbs. gtwr 8,150 lbs. I think I'll be okay, but knowing my luck I just thought it would be a good idea to ask all the questions that I'm worried about before actually buying one.
I will be putting my 2014 street glide in it. I was thinking putting most of the camping stuff in the bed of the truck with my fiberglass tonneau cover on it. It will be me and my wife and our two guard dogs (yorkies) one weighing in at 9lbs the other at 6lbs.
Did look at the 17rp this weekend and a 19rr in person and the wife wants to go with the 19rr.
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Scott, check out my signature and you'll see we're close as I haul a 2007 ultra classic. My truck has a 7700 lbs GVWR. I took my camper fully loaded to the scale and the tt weighed in at 6080 lbs. Grey and black tanks empty and 6 gal in the fresh tank. Handled great and I went through the green and white mountains to Maine. The only thing I would have changed is I would go with the blue ox WDH.
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Old 05-16-2016, 08:08 AM   #13
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You almost always run out of load capacity before you run out of tow capacity. You need to determine the max load capacity of the TV. Subtract 100 lbs ( hitch) and any cargo or passengers in TV. That is the max additional load you can put on TV ( pin or hitch). Note; air bags etc can improve ride, but do not increase the load capacity of the TV. These are determined by the TV frame, axles and tires. If the TV does not have a tow package, you may want to add an aux trans cooler.
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Old 05-16-2016, 08:32 AM   #14
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Scott.
Need to make sure you have a towing package. Transmission cooler and heavier suspension. I see 6370 as a weight. You most likely are a little light in weight or cargo carrying capacity.

What does the yellow sticker say? Also the 6370 may be based upon 17 inch wheels.
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We found out after purchase, toy haulers tend to be much heavier than a TT of the same size. At least on the tongue. Our empty 25' W&P has an advertised weight of 6,600 lbs with 1,100 tongue weight. This trailer using a Blue Ox Sway Pro with 2,000 lb bars squats our F250 pretty good.
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Older trucks may not have the load capacity on the stickers. Weighing your truck will give you all the answers you need. Do a vin search to see if you have the tow package.
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Yes my truck does have the tow/haul Pkg. The spec sheet and door numbers for this truck is different and kinda hard to understand. Or I'm just a idiot, which certainly could be the case.
It's a 2004 Rumble Bee. I've had it a long time and babied it all it's life, but now I want it to work a little and am worried it's not enough for what I'm wanting to tow. The wife is all in on the 19rr, has found the one and called the bank. But, I think she would flip if I told her we need a new truck to tow it.
We went to look at it again today and the owner said he would throw in the WDH as he could tell I was worried about the weight. He's getting a 5th wheel and was going to put it on craigslist.
I will take it and get it weighed if we get it there is a CAT scale the next town over.
Here is a pic of the truck and bike. I hope it all works out.
Thanks for the patience and info
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Old 05-17-2016, 03:49 AM   #18
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Go weigh the truck before you get the trailer. This will help you know if the 19rr will be ok or not. A WDH does not change how much you can tow, it just shifts some of the weight onto the front axle of the tV and a little back to the trailer. By the time you add in the weight of the wdh shank and bars/chains then you have come close to break even on what was likely transferred back to the trailer on a smaller trailer like that.
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Go weigh the truck before you get the trailer. This will help you know if the 19rr will be ok or not. A WDH does not change how much you can tow, it just shifts some of the weight onto the front axle of the tV and a little back to the trailer. By the time you add in the weight of the wdh shank and bars/chains then you have come close to break even on what was likely transferred back to the trailer on a smaller trailer like that.
Okay I will go in the morning when I get off work.
Here is where I'm getting confused though.

With 3.92 Axle Ratio Axle Ratio [i] You Can Tow 8150 lbs Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR) [i] = 6350 lbs
Payload [i] = 1629 lbs
Curb Weight [i] = 4721 lbs
Curb Weight Front/Rear = 2652 lbs/2652 lbs
GAWR Front/Rear [i] = 3650 lbs/3900 lbs
Gross Combination Weight Rating (GCWR) [i] = 13000 lbs
My GCWR is 13,000lbs
It says my truck is 6,350lbs
The 19rr is 4,100 lbs
HD is 900 lbs
Im 200 lbs
Her 105 lbs
Two dogs 15 lbs
Camping "stuff" 1,000 lbs
WDH 100 lbs
All equals 12,770....more weight than I thought. Right at my max GCWR.
But why does it say on the Dodge spec sheet say I can tow 8,100lbs?
19rr and all my "stuff" = 6420lbs well under the 8,100lbs, but right at the GCWR....

Again thanks for your help
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Good math Scott.

Being careful, flat lands, no mountains. Doable. Your choice entirely and you have done your homework.

You are legal but heavy. Remember a 12 yr old truck can not take as much abuse. I would make sure Cooling system is maintained and tranny/differential as well.
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