Truck Stop DEF pump hose length, are they all short?

[doc73]

So I though I'd be smart.. On our way down the DEF needed a top off. So I usually hit the RV lanes at the Flying J's for Diesel... SO I figured I would use the DEF pump in the truck lanes and top off. For the Chevy the fill in the engine bay by the passenger firewall.

So of course, the DW needs to walk in and prepay since I cannot just swipe a CC and activate. She has them turn on the DEF pump and Diesel.. I go and pull out the pump and it comes out about 2.5 feet and stops dead of course flinging the last bit of DEF all over the side of the truck from the last fill....

End up spending 15 minutes just getting fuel because the lady forgot to activate the pump which needed another wait in line of all the trucker's ordering breakfast.. No I know why I just stick to the RV lanes... LOL

SO, are all the pumps this short? Or did I just get the mess with the four wheeler in the truck lanes one? If they are all that short now I see why everyone has such issues..

I usually keep a 2.5 can with me for DEF but left it hoe this time since I should have been fine.. This assumed that Chevy filled the tank like they said they did!

[KenHwy61]

I can only guess it is so short because nearly all truck DEF tanks are located on the driver's side and would be very near the pump. I could be wrong, but the Chevy pick-up truck is the only exception I know of.

[B47]

Originally Posted by KenHwy61

I can only guess it is so short because nearly all truck DEF tanks are located on the driver's side and would be very near the pump. I could be wrong, but the Chevy pick-up truck is the only exception I know of.

X2. I watch some trucker videos and the DEP hose reaches the DEF tank on the drivers side with no problem.

The only time they have to up after fueling is to service the reefer fuel tank if so equipped.

[jtownstumpjumper]

If I fill up with DEF at a truck stop, I find our local LOVE truck stop at a time when they are not very busy and then pull in with my passenger side next to the pump....never have had a problem with a short hose but my complaint is with Chevy/GMC and the very small diameter fill hose that's provided....one has to let the DEF trickle in so as to not have a constant overflow....takes forever to fill....IMO, a very poor design.

[doc73]

Yes, they do seem to be right there, but I figured it would not be just a 2 foot hose.. Guess they are only there for the big rigs not us little folks. I guess I just found it weird.

[Kenny kustom]

Chevy is the problem.
All others, have it beside the fuel fill.

[MillerTime]

Originally Posted by Kenny kustom

Chevy is the problem.
All others, have it beside the fuel fill.

Yep.
And Gm is the only one that you wont hear of people spending thousands of dollars fixing from putting def in their fuel tank mistakenly.
Google it .... nets got tons of stories about dodge and fords killing their fuel systems.

[MillerTime]

Op.
Be thankful it takes a little extra time to fill our def tanks. It is way cheaper than what the owners of others brands spend from accidentally putting it in the wrong fill neck.

[doc73]

Originally Posted by MillerTime

Op.
Be thankful it takes a little extra time to fill our def tanks. It is way cheaper than what the others brands spend from accidentally putting it in the wrong fill neck.

Oh, I am in no way complaining about the fill port... I am right with those who are glad so there is not DEF in the Diesel mistakes. From what I read even a tiny big is big bad news bear!! I was just curious if the short hose is the norm or I just got the idiot hose! In the end it is what it is and I'll just fill the 2.5 gallon gas can and fill it that way. Still cheaper at 2.60 a gallon vs 8.00 - 14.00 a gallon or 2.5 gallons depending on brand and location.

[dalford]

Originally Posted by MillerTime

Op.
Be thankful it takes a little extra time to fill our def tanks. It is way cheaper than what the owners of others brands spend from accidentally putting it in the wrong fill neck.

There is still one thing they can't make error proof on GM or any truck is people who put gas in their diesel tank

I like mine where it is on my F250. If I stick that little dinky nozzle into my large diesel fill hole then I guess I get what I deserve.

One thing at a time, diesel and close the cap then DEF.

OP, I've never had an issue with prepay at Flying J or Pilot. I swipe my CC card then my Good Sam loyalty discount card and I don't recall having to ever go in and prepay. Now Loves is always prepay so I try to avoid when possible.

[B and B]

Originally Posted by MillerTime

Yep.
And Gm is the only one that you wont hear of people spending thousands of dollars fixing from putting def in their fuel tank mistakenly.
Google it .... nets got tons of stories about dodge and fords killing their fuel systems.

With this logic people should be putting gas in the diesel tank. The pumps are clearly marked what they are for.

[MillerTime]

Originally Posted by B and B

With this logic people should be putting gas in the diesel tank. The pumps are clearly marked what they are for.

They do. And ive reported the results on here before.
On a gm ive seen 2 that cost about $15k to fix. And on a ford, my buddies shop (his dad owns and he works at) it was $26k to fix

[dalford]

Originally Posted by MillerTime

They do. And ive reported the results on here before.
On a gm ive seen 2 that cost about $15k to fix. And on a ford, my buddies shop (his dad owns and he works at) it was $26k to fix

Miller time, Why were the Fords so much more to fix? Was it apples to apples or was there some other issues that added $10k to the repair or do you know?

[MillerTime]

Originally Posted by dalford

Miller time, Why were the Fords so much more to fix? Was it apples to apples or was there some other issues that added $10k to the repair or do you know?

I don't know for sure.
On the gms it was at a dealer i worked for 2 years ago. It was the fuel marketer's insurance paying for it, since they put the wrong fuel in the tankers. I was talking to a buddy that was working on them. That might not have been the final bill, since we usually dont turn in all the supplements till the job is done, so the bill may have been higher.
My other buddy that had the ford, i don't know, but they might have had a little more time tied up in diagnostics and parts were probably a little higher since they are an independent. I know they were really worried about getting payed on it, since the bill was so high. Luckily the guy called with a credit card and payed it in full. Now thats a good card!!

[Jim34RL]

I bet they had to pull the cab to work on the Ford. Ford provides extra long wiring harness for this. Check out you tube to see the work that is required for a Ford truck to repair their Diesel engines.

[Kenny kustom]

Originally Posted by MillerTime

Yep.
And Gm is the only one that you wont hear of people spending thousands of dollars fixing from putting def in their fuel tank mistakenly.
Google it .... nets got tons of stories about dodge and fords killing their fuel systems.

That has nothing to do with make or model.
Stupid owners.

[MillerTime]

Originally Posted by Jim34RL

I bet they had to pull the cab to work on the Ford. Ford provides extra long wiring harness for this. Check out you tube to see the work that is required for a Ford truck to repair their Diesel engines.

Its done on all of them. Its quicker to pull a cab than trying to wrestle body parts and car parts. The sooner you learn this as a tech, the quicker you will you will make money. Sometimes an extra couple minutes taking parts off will save you dozens compared to fighting in tight spots.
And I've done frame swaps on all of them. The 6.7 ford being my least favorite since i had to pull the turbo and intakes just to mount a lift plate on the motor in the turbo valley.

[MillerTime]

Originally Posted by Kenny kustom

That has nothing to do with make or model.
Stupid owners.

Maybe....i mean those owners bought those trucks to begin with.......just sayin'
Stupid is as stupid does!!

Just joking guys.....ive had 1 ford and it was ok. But ive had dozens of gms. Haven't hit my head hard enough to buy a dodge yet. Lol (dont think i ever will)

[Kenny kustom]

I guess once you start fixing other people's stuff, you get a bit picky on what you own.

Ford had all kinds of issues
Gm durtymax has head problems and the labour times for those engines are really high.

The CUMMINS is a simple inline 6
Easy to work on, and fairly problem free. ( it's just all the dodge stuff that breaks)

[jerky]

Originally Posted by Kenny kustom

That has nothing to do with make or model.
Stupid owners.

Times 2, bravo, that should be the closer of this one


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